are YOU a pedofile?

"same for this. i see a girl and say "oh man she's smokin". my buddy leans over and says "she's 17 dude". instantly i say "the hell with that", but the primal self is still saying "oh man she's smokin". you cant switch that off."

It doesn't go "BAM!" and disappear. My feelings or attraction would be rapidly disappearing though, so literally switch of or not. You can subside and get rid of thoughts that actually make the thinking of it, irrelevant. It's the admittion, realisation and acceptance of the thought.

"in your case of being in love, you dont have an initial reaction to a girl you meet, so how can it relate?"

Not too sure I follow but if you mean how can I relate because I'm in love. Well, falling out of now anyway. However, I've been a single guy who looks at hot females on the street or wherever. So when that feeling is not there, I can notice that it's gone. If that's not what you meant feel free to let me know.

-AC

😂 i dont think anyone saw this coming.
but when you step back and look at the title of the thread,
maybe we should have

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Not too sure I follow but if you mean how can I relate because I'm in love. Well, falling out of now anyway. However, I've been a single guy who looks at hot females on the street or wherever. So when that feeling is not there, I can notice that it's gone. If that's not what you meant feel free to let me know.

well, speaking from personal experience, when i was really in love, i swear natalie portman could have come up and confessed her need to sleep with me that very moment and i would have shrugged her off.

what i was saying was that state of mind tends to kinda lull the primal sexual self into a content sleep. the need to look for a mate is gone, the radar is turned off. so, in such a case, you are not meeting another girl and saying 😖he's hot...but i have a girlfriend" instead, her hotness has not even crossed your mind. there is no conflict, no feelings to fight and conquer.

That's what I'm saying. Upon the realisation and attraction, those two are immediately overridden with as you said, the shrug ability.

That is exactly how it is, how you described it, the disinterest thing.

-AC

right, but even my use of the word "shrug" is not right.
there is no shrugging...just complete disinterest as you say.
THAT is the result of the concious self calling the shots. but its
not out of a choice you made, or self discipline. its simply circumstantial.
your primal self is muffled in a way, since you and it are satisfied.

now take your single unloved self and put him in that circumstance.

"now take your single unloved self and put him in that circumstance."

I have always seen what you were saying. However, I've actually been in a situation where I've thought a girl was nice to find out she was significantly younger, right then, it kicks in and already starts to remove that feeling. Which I've always said, is what overrides the claim of paedophilia. If you realise those feelings are there and you accept and embrace them, despite knowing they are underage, it is within range of being considered a case. If you immediately show no signs or intent of keeping up that feeling, it automatically overrides having the feeling anyway. Coz it's not being embraced.

-AC

point im making is, you cant declare that its possible to completely muffle the animal in yourself on the grounds that you can while being in love. thats like saying "i can take a bullet in the chest and live, since i already did wearing a bulletproof vest."

i dont think its possible to switch off the primal self, be it instantly or eventually. all we can do is rely on the short attention span of that self to
allow you to let it go and get over it. same goes for that a-hole you would want to knock out. you count to 10 or do whatever you can do in order to trick that primal self into forgetting how pissed off it is, thus keeping you out of jail.
its not some anomaly in the brain, but the foundation on which your conscious is built upon.

EDIT>>>i posted this not reading the post you just made. i will respond to that in a bit

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
"now take your single unloved self and put him in that circumstance."

I have always seen what you were saying. However, I've actually been in a situation where I've thought a girl was nice to find out she was significantly younger, right then, it kicks in and already starts to remove that feeling. Which I've always said, is what overrides the claim of paedophilia. If you realise those feelings are there and you accept and embrace them, despite knowing they are underage, it is within range of being considered a case. If you immediately show no signs or intent of keeping up that feeling, it automatically overrides having the feeling anyway. Coz it's not being embraced.

-AC

not to loop back, but a true pedophile would not consider underage to be a setback, but a bonus...or necessity

as far as embracing those feelings, i think it depends on who the woman in a person's fantasy is. the mind alters others to make them more enticing, thus everyone is perfect in a fantasy...but what does the self find perfect?
does that girl become a mature woman or is she truelly a little girl? is ARC drooling over a little girl or what he percieved as a grown mature woman who is technically jailbait? i say the latter. its not the immaturity he finds attractive.

thats the heart of it dude. pedophiles are turned on by immaturity. stachetory rapists seem to just not give a shit and live by the "if there's grass in the field" mentallity.

as for someone counting the days to another person's 18th birthday...its a tough one. see, im 30...so for me imho i would have to be a wacko to have such a mentallity. but what of someone 18 to......24 lets say?

"does that girl become a mature woman or is she truelly a little girl? is ARC drooling over a little girl or what he percieved as a grown mature woman who is technically jailbait? i say the latter. its not the immaturity he finds attractive."

Like I said, not calling him one. My argument was only that he has the commonality with them by definition due to thought.

"as for someone counting the days to another person's 18th birthday...its a tough one. see, im 30...so for me imho i would have to be a wacko to have such a mentallity. but what of someone 18 to......24 lets say?"

Well age gaps in the states are much more casually looked upon due to maturity.

Here, the standard limit seems to be 3 years younger max, than self. Maybe 4. Over there I've known girls to causually date guys who are in their 20s when they are barely legal.

So that is obviously a huge factor that neither of us can overcome, the fact that we are sort of going by standards of age gap where we live in terms of age.

-AC

so that is what i meant by the blurring of psychology, law, and morals.
law and morals are rules that we make up. some laws like those against rape and murder are pretty cut and dry, but this topic lands in a gray area, where its all up to the law of the land, and what we think is moral in immoral.

i would wager that many if not all of us have not-so-distant ancestors who married under circumstances that would warrant a label of pedophelia today. such as a grown man marrying a 13-17 year old girl. very common in the old days and not frowned upon at all. however, pedophelia was still discouraged. i dont think those ancestors were pedophiles, they were just programmed with the fabricated morals of the day, as we are now.

my view on pedophelia is that it extends beyond our own morals and into the common sense area. its difficult for us to comprehend it in that its a pattern of thought which is alien to us...to want to have intercourse with a child. not a person who is technically underage, but a gods honest child. to look at that child and be turned on by their immaturity and lack of developement.

i honestly hope that we as a society learn to draw those lines since its dangerous to overgeneralise. such a generalization could land a 25 year old in prison because he inadvertaintly slept with a 17 year old, and at the same time dillute the real problem, the condition...the reason the very word was created...the reason why parents tell kids not to talk to strangers. pedophiles, MY definition are a menace to society and must be contained. by blurring the defenition of what they are only makes the real headcases more elusive.

not that i accuse you of such blurring, i think we are all guilty of it, thanks to those blurry morals we are taught.

"not a person who is technically underage, but a gods honest child. to look at that child and be turned on by their immaturity and lack of developement. .......................i honestly hope that we as a society learn to draw those lines since its dangerous to overgeneralise. such a generalization could land a 25 year old in prison because he inadvertaintly slept with a 17 year old, and at the same time dillute the real problem, the condition...the reason the very word was created...the reason why parents tell kids not to talk to strangers. pedophiles, MY definition are a menace to society and must be contained. by blurring the defenition of what they are only makes the real headcases more elusive.

not that i accuse you of such blurring, i think we are all guilty of it, thanks to those blurry morals we are taught."

I think even if we agree on nothing else or our original points are blurred, I stand by mine, that some kind of new clearer idea of what constitutes paedophilia needs to be developed. I'm going by the literal and technical definition, you are going by yours and unless we find one universally acceptable, we won't be able to completely agree.

-AC

perhaps webster's will eventually solve our dilemma
maybe i should write them a letter...😄

Originally posted by Mr Wiggles
are YOU a pedofile?

who knows.... 😬

Don'T you have to ber likr really old to be a pedophile? like 20 or something?

That's the perception.

-AC

please tell me your just

1-kidding
2-drunk
3-drunk and kidding

😄

edit>>> ...to the quote about having to be 20 😂

Originally posted by Bardock42
Don'T you have to ber likr really old to be a pedophile? like 20 or something?

as i wrote... i dont know... no one knows wether im pedophile 😬

Originally posted by PVS
please tell me your just

1-kidding
2-drunk
3-drunk and kidding

😄

edit>>> ...to the quote about having to be 20 😂

Could this face be kidding 😱
I don't think so. Or wait maybe.
I actually just sais that to make this joke witgh the really really old you know.

no joke though, i think its amazing what we've touched on.
think about it...what do you call a potential child molester? what medical term do you tag on him/her? if pedophile is not the word than what is? not a retorical question either, i really want to know. 😕

the dilemma is that i think we NEED certain labels in society for order, especially when children are at stake. so what is it...

a person is diagnosed as having the potential to molest a child, since they are attracted to them. this person would be diagnosed as a _______. (fill in the blank)

pedophile?

But if you are 17 and like 14 year olds are you pedophile?