Originally posted by juggernaut74
What are you talking about? 50 tons? Give me a break its more like 10 tons. And that was from the Marvel Spiderman Handbook(2004). It says nothing about the ability to exceed 10 tons.
Marvel has many encyclopedias about spiderman my friend. In one of them he can lift about 8-10 tons but it says that he has a stress factor. It also says his strength can go into unchartered territory. Thus his strength can exceed 50 tons. For example. He has actually lifted 40 tons of metal off his back, multistory buildings, etc.
I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but spiderman might win this battle for several reasons.
One as couple guys at on the screen above put it, a "stress factor".
People can sometimes do feats that are superhuman so why can't a superhuman person sometimes do feats that are even more superhuman. Its possible.
Two, while collossus is stronger and can fight pretty good. Spiderman can fight even better than him and is way faster.
He also is way smarter being a genius. He went one on one with the hulk for a while on several occassions.
One such was where he was throwing the Hulk aroung after doc sampson had gotten knocked out. However spiderman would have to stick to the "flow like a butterfly sting like a bee" approach, cause if he gets grabbed or hit, he is pretty much gonna be in serious trouble.
Collossus is a bad dude and can inflict serious damage, so peter can't afford to slack off like he usually does in fights. He'll have to be deadly serious and completely focused. If he is then he'll win for sho'.
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Spiderman fans do not know what they are talking about. He continuously get hits by his opponents, like vulture, a 80 yr old guy with wings. Spiderman is a great fighter, but its no way he would come close to be colossus. Spiderman has been hit by absorbing man, rhino ( who is much slower than colossus), all his enemies hit him. What makes colossus any different. Spiderman dont have any way of beating colossus, his punches wont work, his webb wont work but colossus hits will. Colussus has enough speed to land a blow on spiderman, his speed is augmented once in armored form. Any of spiderman enemies colossus will beat them with ease. Colossus wins no contest.
Oh lord. You all were right in the beginning.
This is a "no-fight" scenario. Neither could do anything to damage the other. Look at my sig. I am supporting the neutral answer because it's true. The fight would with them probably getting drinks or something.
It actually pained me to read some of these posts...
And I dunno if it was answered already, but Colossus can stay him transformed state for as long as he wants. It doesn't tire him at all, no fatigue is caused by his transformation. He has to consciouly will himself back to normal. The longest he has been recorded is five days, and that's just because he didn't feel like being metal anymore.
But I sitll stick by my answer. "No-fight."
spiderman has great speed but you all seem to forget so does other characters. Spiderman isnt the flash, he gets hit in all of his battles. When he fought juggernaut he tricked him and juggernaut was covered in cement, i can do that.
Colossus will destroy spiderman, im sorry to tell you all that. Current colossus is on a level where he could give anyone a challenge. If they were to fight he will get numerous of licks and while spiderman is hitting him it wont have the slightest affect. Colussus now is like superman but just dont have flight and heat vision but he is just as good.
If you all think spiderman will overcome colossus please read more comics on colossus and his speed and strength and come back next yr to post because this would be a fight that spiderman will lose and not want to go into again.
Originally posted by derrick24
Spiderman fans do not know what they are talking about. He continuously get hits by his opponents, like vulture, a 80 yr old guy with wings. Spiderman is a great fighter, but its no way he would come close to be colossus. Spiderman has been hit by absorbing man, rhino ( who is much slower than colossus), all his enemies hit him. What makes colossus any different. Spiderman dont have any way of beating colossus, his punches wont work, his webb wont work but colossus hits will. Colussus has enough speed to land a blow on spiderman, his speed is augmented once in armored form. Any of spiderman enemies colossus will beat them with ease. Colossus wins no contest.
Marvel comics are highly inconsistent. According to Spider-man's official powers his reflexes are about 40 times that of a normal human. That means he can see a bullet traveling around 30 mph (a super changeup). His spidersense is reported to be able to jerk him out of the way of an attack (sometimes before it happens-that's why he can dodge lasers) without his knowledge of what is happening. Thus he almost never should get hit. Marvel only have him getting hit by slower moving beings to add adversity (The writers are either lazy or not smart enough to come up with a better way an adversary can potentially affect spidey). Thus one should use a character's exact powers in consistent to their fighting behaviors in order to make a sound judgement. Lastly, it is a fallacy to assume that spidey will not resort to other means (instead of hand-to-hand fighting) of trying to defeat collosus (he is not stupid in the least). Spidey will most likely figure out a way to defeat collosus (either through trickery or using some other resource).
Marvel comics are highly inconsistent. According to Spider-man's official powers his reflexes are about 40 times that of a normal human. That means he can see a bullet traveling around 30 mph (a super changeup). His spidersense is reported to be able to jerk him out of the way of an attack (sometimes before it happens-that's why he can dodge lasers) without his knowledge of what is happening. Thus he almost never should get hit. Marvel only have him getting hit by slower moving beings to add adversity (The writers are either lazy or not smart enough to come up with a better way an adversary can potentially affect spidey). Thus one should use a character's exact powers in consistent to their fighting behaviors in order to make a sound judgement. Lastly, it is a fallacy to assume that spidey will not resort to other means (instead of hand-to-hand fighting) of trying to defeat collosus (he is not stupid in the least). Spidey will most likely figure out a way to defeat collosus (either through trickery or using some other resource).
Damn, that boy good ain't he!?!
That makes perfect sense.
Damn I hate those lazy-ass inconsistent writers.
They make batman get to trade blows with darkseid, trip up flash(who he shouldn't even be able to see if flash run around him 1000 times), and thrash superman.
Then, they make spiderman, who is damn near a low-budget god compared to his opponents get hit by slow ass garbage whck people like rhino and king pin.
Spiderman should be like clark on smallville. Everything should slow down to slow motion around him when moves,according to science/physics/and his 40 times normal reflexes.
Damn lazy ass writers.
Originally posted by jplatinumI SOOO agree with this post...it HAD to be said!!! ✅
Marvel comics are highly inconsistent. According to Spider-man's official powers his reflexes are about 40 times that of a normal human. That means he can see a bullet traveling around 30 mph (a super changeup). His spidersense is reported to be able to jerk him out of the way of an attack (sometimes before it happens-that's why he can dodge lasers) without his knowledge of what is happening. Thus he almost never should get hit. Marvel only have him getting hit by slower moving beings to add adversity (The writers are either lazy or not smart enough to come up with a better way an adversary can potentially affect spidey). Thus one should use a character's exact powers in consistent to their fighting behaviors in order to make a sound judgement. Lastly, it is a fallacy to assume that spidey will not resort to other means (instead of hand-to-hand fighting) of trying to defeat collosus (he is not stupid in the least). Spidey will most likely figure out a way to defeat collosus (either through trickery or using some other resource).Damn, that boy good ain't he!?!
That makes perfect sense.
Damn I hate those lazy-ass inconsistent writers.
They make batman get to trade blows with darkseid, trip up flash(who he shouldn't even be able to see if flash run around him 1000 times), and thrash superman.
Then, they make spiderman, who is damn near a low-budget god compared to his opponents get hit by slow ass garbage whck people like rhino and king pin.
Spiderman should be like clark on smallville. Everything should slow down to slow motion around him when moves,according to science/physics/and his 40 times normal reflexes.
Damn lazy ass writers.
When it comes to "who will win this fight?", i tend to say it's more like Metalmanx posted - a no-fight, but if a final decision would be required, Spidey has a (just slightly) better chance of winning by outwitting Colossus.
Spidey is way faster than Collosus.
See here
http://img430.imageshack.us/my.php?image=14vt1.jpg
http://img430.imageshack.us/my.php?image=29ju.jpg
http://img430.imageshack.us/my.php?image=34rk.jpg
And here he tries to stop them with his bare hands
http://img409.imageshack.us/my.php?image=35yh.jpg
http://img430.imageshack.us/my.php?image=27rh.jpg
That was after a short training with Captain America.
If Spidey goes on training he would become
a much more powerful hero.
Originally posted by h1a8
Yes spiderman is a tactical genius. He has outsmarted many a foe (even smart ones). Spiderman can lift over 50 tons in times of great stress (his strength reaches uncharted territory). His reflexes is also 40 times that of a normal human (to him a bullet is moving at about 20mph). His spidersense jerks him out of danger without his knowledge (in some cases before the attack actually happens). Technically, spiderman is never suppose to get hit. He take hits because lazy writers don't know how to add adversity to the story. Spiderman has also defeated many foes just as powerful (if not more) as colossus. So technically, he is superior to most superpowered beings. Spider finds a way to stop or kill colossus.
At the most Spider-man's strength raises to 12 tons in times of stress, and that is at the absolout most. 50 is way out of his league!
Wow the Spidey and Colo fans r really clashing.
Colossus:
-Please demonstrate where Colossus has 3xhuman speed...BTW Rhino is several times faster than a human...sometimes he may be depicted as a slow douche, but one of his true powers is enhanced speed....thus his running speed of 150mph.
-When has Colossus been portrayed as a master of strategy?
-How is a strength increase from 75 to 100 tons going to help him fight Spiderman?
-Physics is a good argument to argue Colossus' speed...if he can throw Wolverine a few hundred miles per hour causing him to reach Ord's ship while taking off, he may be able to throw an awkward 200mph punch...regardless this does nothing to someone like Spidey who perceives bullets at 20mph and has a precognisant "Spidey-Sense" that allows him to dodge lasers traveling at light speed.
Spiderman:
-Used to max out at 10 tons, but he's up to 15 or 20 now...his powers do grow with time and the increase in strength is listed in his handbook.
-Spidey has fought WAY more villains than any single X-Man save perhaps Wolverine. Did he have Cyclops, Captain AMerica, Reed Richards leading him or telling him what to do? No, Spidey has routinely designed strategies for taking down bigger threats than Colossus on the fly.
-Spiderman can't routinely beat bricks like Colossus in a straight up brawl unless he snaps like he did against Firelord...Firelord's durability does exceed Colossus...he's taken punches from Drax..but he could not take a sustained assault of spider-fast/strong punches from Peter.
Both sides are hyping up their characters...but this fight is a mismatch that would result in a non-fight. There are no circumstances that would result in a win except some kind of a ring out or one where spidey goes berserk like he did against Pyreus Kril.
Originally posted by Arahan
Spidey is way faster than Collosus.
See here
http://img430.imageshack.us/my.php?image=14vt1.jpghttp://img430.imageshack.us/my.php?image=29ju.jpg
http://img430.imageshack.us/my.php?image=34rk.jpg
And here he tries to stop them with his bare hands
http://img409.imageshack.us/my.php?image=35yh.jpg
http://img430.imageshack.us/my.php?image=27rh.jpg
That was after a short training with Captain America.
If Spidey goes on training he would become
a much more powerful hero.
Crap. Those were great scans. That was freakin fast, man.
Too bad that other bullet got him, haha. Poor Spidey. Seriously, I feel bad for him. He has the worst luck in the world after saving the city and civilians of it countless times.
