White House Uses Gay Tax Money to Fund Anti-Gay Propoganda

I think I know what you're talking about Bardock. When you say fake marriages you mean an illegal alien marries a citizen of a certain country so that the illegal alien can become a citizen? Is that what you mean? If so that happens here very often. Certain people from other countries marry U.S. Citizens in order to obtain a visa or a residential permit.

Yes thats what I mean, I guess you could as well do that with people that you doubt really life together and all.

Yes. Imagine if a Afgnan male terrorist who's a citizen marries another male Afghan male terrorist and automatically becomes a citizen. The immigration rate would double. And believe me that's the last thing we want. People are willing to do anything to become a American citizen. Including marrying someone of their own gender.

Yeah, but the other side of the coin is that some of the marriages are fixed so that illegal alien pays the citizen for the marriage. After a year they get a divorce and each goes his/her separate way. Is a scheme that is becoming agaisn't the law. Problem is......how can you tell if the marriage is fix or not?

Well why not just marry someione of the opposite gender? What do you mean with double? Are you implying there are as many people that want to marry people of their own gender as there are of different?

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Yeah, but the other side of the coin is that some of the marriages are fixed so that illegal alien pays the citizen for the marriage. After a year they get a divorce and each goes his/her separate way. Is a scheme that is becoming agaisn't the law. Problem is......how can you tell if the marriage is fix or not?

well I know we have investigator they check if the people live and together. And probablys more stuff.

I'm saying that people with twisted intentions will take every advantage imaginable of the gay marriage legislation. It won't matter if they're gay or not. Let's say a certain gang member is wanted for attempted murder. Another gang member can marry him and escape prosecution. Why? Because the law authorizes that any conversation taken between a married couple is legally bound as privilage. The criminal justice system would require a complete revamp.

So but´all you argue you could just as well say marriages have bad sites so just forbid them all. Its unfair to grant it to heterosexuals but not to homosexuals

No I'm arguing that gay marriage doesn't just affect the gays. It affects everything and everybody. The government, the army, the navy, the state government, our economy, the criminal justice system, EVERYTHING. Is it fair to give marriage to homosexuals with complete disregard to everyone else. Is it fair to authorize a complete revison of our government and laws for the interests of one minority group. Is it fair to put a small group's wishes above the majority's welfare? No it's not.

Gays can marry. We call these civil unions.

Well then let Heterosexuals only have civil unions too and its fair again.

It's not about fairness. It's about practicality and rationality.

Why? I don't see whats the point, well if these civil unions are so great why not everything cut back to them,. So it would be fair and there wouldn't be any negative aspects?

Civil Unions is just a politically correct statement for marriage. It's not an actual marriage but it has all its benefits. Once again, why should a small group that represents a very small percentage of America cause everybody else revert to civil unions. It would not be fair at all.

Yes it would be, everyone would be equal, and you said civil union are the same as marriages so why not for all?

It would cost a sh**load of money to revert marriage to civil unions. Do really think millions of Americans would sit back and let their marriage be substanderized?

Well why shouldn't say, you say its the same, so whats the problem?

The problem is that reverting civil unions would cause our government trillions of dollars, a significant increase in taxes and probably some very very angry heterosexual people that want their marriages to remain marriages not a civil union. In a perfect society, gay marriage would work. We're anything BUT a perfect society.

Yeah you are a homophobic society, which is the 0only problem there is.

Actually we are the one of the most tolerant towards homosexuals society in the world. Lest we forget that there are countries like Egypt and China that castrate you for being a homosexual. We're pretty tolerant compared to the rest of the world.

Oh thats great what next? compare your executions to ancient rome and say you are actually a liberal society? One question do you really want to be compareds to these countries?