“I think women wouldnt have as much of a problem as men about people being gay because we have true love drummed into us…”
Now, there’s a point I don’t see every day. And a good one even.
So it seems that the homophobic men don’t like homosexual men, because of the mere thought of what a sexual act entails? And that men do not like to be chased or viewed by other men, the way they chase or view women???
I would assume there are more homophobic men because of the stereotype that men are supposed to be macho. It's the same reason men aren't supposed to cry. It's a threat to the way a guy is viewed. It's a pack mentality. "I can't have no problem with gay guys, because someone might think I'm gay" Gay men are often times protrayed as emotional and effiminate. This isn't always the case. I know a lot of masculine gay men...I'll even go as far as to include myself among them. By the same token, I know a handful of effeminate open minded and emotional guys who are straight. Who you sleep with doesn't define who you are.
Originally posted by The Omega
Pr1983> You must’ve missed the opening of this thread.
There are FAR more homophobic men than women… I’ve never encountered a homophobic woman to be honest.
This thread discusses WHY more men are homophobic than women…
i read it all...
and i believe some women can be as homophobic as men (towards women not men), i have met homophobic women (i live in ireland 😬)...
from what i've seen(i'm only drawing on personal experience) a lot of women generally have no problem with gay men, but its not always the same case with women (some are homophobic, some not)...
i believe there are more men that are homophobic (obviously), i'm just saying its not a men only thing...
if i seem defensive i apologise...
and i agree with capt 100%
PR1983> Sure, there probably ARE homophobic women… That I haven’t met one is not empirical evidence at all.
I have – however – met many homophobic men. It was never the argument in this thread that there exists no such thing as homophobic women, merely why there are MORE homophobic men.
You didn't seem defensive - I just got the idea you mistook the fundation of premises for the discussion.
And yes, Capt is right. Who I sleep with does not define who I am.
I suppose society as such in some ways accept women kissing or making out, as it supposedly is used very often in pornography to MEN. Whereas women just recently decided to get gay-porn to see men kissing and making out.
Originally posted by The Omega
PR1983> Sure, there probably ARE homophobic women… That I haven’t met one is not empirical evidence at all.
I have – however – met many homophobic men. It was never the argument in this thread that there exists no such thing as homophobic women, merely why there are MORE homophobic men.
You didn't seem defensive - I just got the idea you mistook the fundation of premises for the discussion.And yes, Capt is right. Who I sleep with does not define who I am.
I suppose society as such in some ways accept women kissing or making out, as it supposedly is used very often in pornography to MEN. Whereas women just recently decided to get gay-porn to see men kissing and making out.
i did get it, i apologise for being off topic 😮
I've encountered homophobic women. Before I came out, I didn't know any other gay people. I even bashed gay people. Women are no less susceptible to the pack mentality I was talking about in my last post. Granted, I've met very few women who had any problem with it. But thos that I have encountered A) Didn't know I was gay and B)were saying that it was "disgusting" because they were sitting in front of a bunch of straight guys that they wanted to sleep with. Women are just as capable of being sheep as guys are. One instance I remember particularly well was in a dinner at three in the morning and there were some gay guys sitting a few booths away. Myself and the friends I was with were making fun of them, and the girl that was with us said it was disgusting because my best friend said it was. She liked Juan, so she was going to agree with him in order to gain his acceptance. I'm just as guilty of wanting to be accepted. I wanted to be like my friends, so I made fun of a group of people that I'm a part of. Now, after I came out, my best friend was one of the most accepting people in the world. He said those things that night too, but he was saying them for the same reason that everyone else was. To fit in...to be normal. If he really felt that way, how could we still be friends?
The truth is that it's easy to say that there is something wrong with gay people when you aren't faced with it. That's why I have such a problem with the few members on here who just blurt out things like gay people are a perversion or disgusting or unatural. They would be singing a different tune if they were sitting across the table from me. I know they wouldn't have the balls to say anything negative about it to my face. On the other hand, I would have no issue telling them they're ignorant.
BF> Actually – Gay men are hot, too (the good ones anyways) 😉
Capt> “The truth is that it's easy to say that there is something wrong with gay people when you aren't faced with it.”
You are probably very right. But where I live, in DK, most people accept gays – and gays can get married etc. etc. etc. Fortunately Danish society is progressing towards giving gays the exact same right as straight people. So of course I have not been subjected to the pack-mentality you mention.