Ego vs Mogo

Originally posted by abhilegend
That galactus was so powerful that his ultimate attack was throwing asteroids at ego.

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What kind of ass backwards logic is that? Galactus from the get go was a being who was made explicitly clear to be far beyond entities like Thor and unimaginably powerful. Odin straight up compared Galactus' power to his own and he had his fair share of space cheese feats.

Why do you think that this scene somehow makes him and by extension Ego less powerful:

I also find it hilarious how you immediately resort to cheese feats when it suits you.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
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What kind of ass backwards logic is that? Galactus from the get go was a being who was made explicitly clear to be far beyond entities like Thor and unimaginably powerful. Odin straight up compared Galactus' power to his own and he had his fair share of space cheese feats.

Why do you think that this scene somehow makes him and by extension Ego less powerful:

I also find it hilarious how you immediately resort to cheese feats when it suits you.

What else we're going to place Galactus in power level then? Your word? Galactus was compared to a watcher in power in those days, today he vaporizes them without directly battling them. If anybody thinks he was as powerful after Englehart and Byrne revamped him, they are kidding themselves.

Originally posted by zopzop

"Which is her entire CONCEPT" because she's an ABSTRACT. See?

Galactus is NOT an abstract. What freaking concept does he represent? [/B]

Here's your first response:
Yup a TRUE Abstract kept them from dying because she willed it.

Which has a ****ton to do with anything since that's what she represents. Her keeping them alive doesn't have anything to do with being an abstract, since that's only her function.
Flipflop beat bop zopzop

I've already said what Galactus represents. You've ignored it like 3/4's of my post.

Also, a concept you say?
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff240/Branlactus/Importance/DMCv33015.jpg

Originally posted by zopzop

Where did Eternity bleed? When did the PF (not it's avatars) bleed? Galactus bleeds, drools, hungers (and can actually die if he doesn't take in sustenance). When Doom robbed him of the PC he reverted back to Galan again!

[/B]

You can favor the "If you can truly call it that", but at the end you're ignoring him also calling it blood. And more importantly, it being blood. If you can look at that scan and honestly tell me that's not blood all over the place, then you've truly lost it.
It's spilling out from him everywhere like blood would. It was called blood. And more importantly, look at it. Eternity gets beat up badly and stuff starts oozing out of him...
We might as well twist the Galactus scan and say it doesn't look like blood on account of it being white, and say he didn't actually bleed. It's stupid zop.

So we attach arbitrary rules to Phoenix bleeding ignoring that it's at its most impressive when it's in an avatar?
Anyway, ignoring your rules because I don't care. Full Phoenix Cyclops was gushing blood everywhere.

Eternity bleeds, drooling... when? The Phoenix Force eats. He's never died from not eating, but the hunger's there so he keeps eating to keep everything in check again. You'll ignore that, but you ignore a lot.

Because he's the previous Eternity merged with a man. The power itself didn't revert.

Originally posted by zopzop

Galactus is a cosmic being. Like the Watchers or Celestials. That's all. Being an Abstract doesn't make one "all powerful" but obviously some of them are damn powerful (see Maelstrom trolling the various cosmic beings during Cosmos In Collision). Being an abstract means you represent a concept, something Galactus DOES NOT represent. [/B]

The funny thing is Maelstrom un-powered up killed the abstract in Anomaly easily. So maybe you're right when it doesn't make you all powerful or even powerful...

I also like how you're stating his physical form so much, yet just brushes off IB having a physical form because it suits his purpose... which is crazily unlike iyo Galatus having a physical form which suits his purpose of killing planets.

Also, Galactus was supposed to be the opposite of IB in that comic as well.

Originally posted by zopzop

He didn't disintegrate someone "multiple times" who defeated Death. He atomized him and the Elders reformed in his stomach which is what was killing him.

He didn't stalemate the IB, he was LOSING and hence why the Surfer/Nova/Elders/FF had to jump in and save his ass.

Also Death was going to stop Galactus from reforming and claim him until Strange ran interference for him. [/B]

Either way, he kept disintegrating Grandmaster along with the others. And again, they were also attacking him in between the disintegration.

Except the part where he wasn't losing. That fight's as about as close as you can get to a stalemate as you can get. And even better, it was when Galactus was weakened, and after as you put it, about to die.
They were worried he was going to lose, but as it stands he in no way was losing. If he was losing though, post the scans Flopzop.

Death didn't. But the main thing is, Galactus didn't die there so you don't have a point anyway.

Originally posted by zopzop
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yS8EjihS98E
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dgg91nWmjuc
It's all right there. Galactus was his pawn all along. If Magus didn't want Eternity rescued, Galactus wouldn't have done squat (he also needed someone to bond with to get it done but that's neither here nor there). But the Magus wanted him to succeed so he could get his hands on the IG.

Galactus "takes" form by way of M-bodies (as shown in Quasar), he's not an abstract, just a "power cosmic entity" :

The Inbetweener is an abstract representing Balance. [/B]

Either way, Magus didn't know how Galactus was going to do it. He didn't change anything in the way to make it easier for Galactus. Which again, as I said before, doesn't change the feat in anyway.
Galactus destroyed something that was holding Eternity catatonic and holding Infinity inside Eternity.

You have provided absolutely nothing to explain how Galactus being a pawn of Magus changes the feat in anyway. Either provide an explanation, or shut up.

Well, it looks like Galactus has got the experience now because he doesn't have an actual form. 🙂

What does that have to do with anything? Like I said, Galactus is at least as powerful as IB, so really...

Either way, Galactus has been said multiple times to be the third force in the Eternity/Death conflict. Has been said to be beyond form a handful of times. Has been called an abstract in the Cancerverse War. Has been called one of the great powers which only included other Abstracts. He's more powerful than an abstract in the In-Betweener.
If Galactus isn't an actual abstract, he's more important than some of the actual ones, with all the power of some. It really makes no difference besides the classification in his case.

Originally posted by "Id"
Here let me simply this for ya.
Death - Eternity - Oblivion - Infinity: These are Concept Abstracts, as these are metaphysical being, given form by embodiment of the idea they represent.

Galatcus - Phoenix: Are simply Abstract Entities, because they can not be fathomable perceived by the lower life forms, due to their evolved state of being.

I don't care if Galactus is actually an abstract or not, it's just that zopzop sucks, and his arbitrary rules are garbage.

Anyway, Ego has some crazy feats. He also has shitty ones as well, but that's mostly just the size queen thing that won't happen here.
I'd give it to him on account of better feats.

Originally posted by abhilegend
That doesn't work in comics where you have to often differentiate between hyperbole and actual feats. Unless you tell me that Thor hit Surtur with the heat of a million suns

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/MjolnirBurnwithMillSuns.jpg

Considering the writer used asteroids as the ultimate attack, I don't think the "power of a thousand suns" was anything but hyperbole.

Of course that can be taken into account, but it makes much more sense for Galactus rather than Thor.

Originally posted by Endless Mike
Of course that can be taken into account, but it makes much more sense for Galactus rather than Thor.

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
And you're still dodging I see.

Here's your first response:
Yup a TRUE Abstract kept them from dying because she willed it.

Which has a ****ton to do with anything since that's what she represents. Her keeping them alive doesn't have anything to do with being an abstract, since that's only her function.
Flipflop beat bop zopzop

I've already said what Galactus represents. You've ignored it like 3/4's of my post.

Also, a concept you say?
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff240/Branlactus/Importance/DMCv33015.jpg

http://i40.tinypic.com/jtscuo.jpg
http://i43.tinypic.com/v6rv9e.jpg

You can favor the "If you can truly call it that", but at the end you're ignoring him also calling it blood. And more importantly, it being blood. If you can look at that scan and honestly tell me that's not blood all over the place, then you've truly lost it.
It's spilling out from him everywhere like blood would. It was called blood. And more importantly, look at it. Eternity gets beat up badly and stuff starts oozing out of him...
We might as well twist the Galactus scan and say it doesn't look like blood on account of it being white, and say he didn't actually bleed. It's stupid zop.

So we attach arbitrary rules to Phoenix bleeding ignoring that it's at its most impressive when it's in an avatar?
Anyway, ignoring your rules because I don't care. Full Phoenix Cyclops was gushing blood everywhere.

Eternity bleeds, drooling... when? The Phoenix Force eats. He's never died from not eating, but the hunger's there so he keeps eating to keep everything in check again. You'll ignore that, but you ignore a lot.

Because he's the previous Eternity merged with a man. The power itself didn't revert.

It's quite simple really, he is the great destroyer.

The funny thing is Maelstrom un-powered up killed the abstract in Anomaly easily. So maybe you're right when it doesn't make you all powerful or even powerful...

I also like how you're stating his physical form so much, yet just brushes off IB having a physical form because it suits his purpose... which is crazily unlike iyo Galatus having a physical form which suits his purpose of killing planets.

Also, Galactus was supposed to be the opposite of IB in that comic as well.

Atomize, disintegrate, same thing. Although it's funny that's the thing you actually want to respond to considering everything you ignored in my post.

Either way, he kept disintegrating Grandmaster along with the others. And again, they were also attacking him in between the disintegration.

Except the part where he wasn't losing. That fight's as about as close as you can get to a stalemate as you can get. And even better, it was when Galactus was weakened, and after as you put it, about to die.
They were worried he was going to lose, but as it stands he in no way was losing. If he was losing though, post the scans Flopzop.

Death didn't. But the main thing is, Galactus didn't die there so you don't have a point anyway.

Well, I'm not watching a youtube on it.

Either way, Magus didn't know how Galactus was going to do it. He didn't change anything in the way to make it easier for Galactus. Which again, as I said before, doesn't change the feat in anyway.
Galactus destroyed something that was holding Eternity catatonic and holding Infinity inside Eternity.

You have provided absolutely nothing to explain how Galactus being a pawn of Magus changes the feat in anyway. Either provide an explanation, or shut up.

Well, it looks like Galactus has got the experience now because he doesn't have an actual form. 🙂

What does that have to do with anything? Like I said, Galactus is at least as powerful as IB, so really...

Either way, Galactus has been said multiple times to be the third force in the Eternity/Death conflict. Has been said to be beyond form a handful of times. Has been called an abstract in the Cancerverse War. Has been called one of the great powers which only included other Abstracts. He's more powerful than an abstract in the In-Betweener.
If Galactus isn't an actual abstract, he's more important than some of the actual ones, with all the power of some. It really makes no difference besides the classification in his case.

a) Galactus is NOT an abstract because he represents no CONCEPT. The much hyped "third force" crap is explained here :

Now explain to me what concept Galactus represents :
Mistress Death - Death
Eternity - Time
Infinity - Space
Oblivion - Void
Mistress Love - Love
Sire Hate - Hate
Master Order - Order
Lord Chaos - Chaos
Inbetweener - Balance
Anomaly - Anomaly
Entropy - Entropy
Galactus - ............

Confirmed here (again) :

b) Eternity like all true abstracts doesn't "bleed". Dormammu even said "if you can call it that". PF Scott bleeding is to be expected since he's a living being in possession of the PF. The PF itself has never bled. The PF doesn't need to eat to survive. Galactus has not only bled, he's drooled, he's sweated, and his skin even shriveled when he was near death :

This happened during Annihilation too (the shriveled skin but I can't find the scan).
So underneath all that power cosmic he's still Galan (as Doom proved when he drained him dry).

The IB having a physical form makes perfect sense since he's the meeting point and balance between all dualities. Physical/Abstract, God/Man, Life/Death, etc...

c) Galactus did NOT continuously break down the Elders in his stomach. That was the whole problem. His body doesn't continuously break down food. He atomized them and ate them and thought that was the end of it but it wasn't :

Champion even explains it.

d) Your loss (the not watching the youtube comics that is). It's all explained right there. Magus played Galactus for a fool and he was his pawn all along. Anyone that wants to see the proof can click the links and watch the videos with scans from the appropriate comic (which I don't feel like hunting down and posting right about now).

The "third force" stuff regarding Galactus is explained by the Living Tribunal himself in the scan I provided above. If that's what makes Galactus an "abstract" or "concept" in your eyes then I guess the parts of the human brain are "abstracts" and "concepts" too.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Not that version of galactus.

Why not? Even a near-depleted Galactus was able to send out a shockwave that scoured the galaxy and killed a Watcher at the end of Annihilation. Galactus was hungry when he fought Ego, but not nearly as weak as he was at that point.

Originally posted by Endless Mike
Why not? Even a near-depleted Galactus was able to send out a shockwave that scoured the galaxy and killed a Watcher at the end of Annihilation. Galactus was hungry when he fought Ego, but not nearly as weak as he was at that point.

Annihilus only stored a bit of his power at a time to use the cannon. He was severely weakened and nowhere near his peak during that blast.

Originally posted by abhilegend
I do. I doubt that the writer at that time knew this.
I don't think he was treated as a universal threat there. Universal threats don't throw asteroids as their ultimate attack, y'know.

it's stated multiple times on panel, y'know:

http://i.imgur.com/QicxTzd.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/vHLNGvz.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/aHnDGiz.jpg

Originally posted by zopzop
How was he near depleted? Here he is absorbing the power cosmic in the containers that Annihilus had gathered right before he fired off the HMR attack :

He depleted himself AFTER firing off that "herald my rage" blast.

You should reread Godhunter.

Originally posted by zopzop
Posts are getting too long :

a) Galactus is NOT an abstract because he represents no CONCEPT. The much hyped "third force" crap is explained here :

Now explain to me what concept Galactus represents :
Mistress Death - Death
Eternity - Time
Infinity - Space
Oblivion - Void
Mistress Love - Love
Sire Hate - Hate
Master Order - Order
Lord Chaos - Chaos
Inbetweener - Balance
Anomaly - Anomaly
Entropy - Entropy
Galactus - ............

Confirmed here (again) :

b) Eternity like all true abstracts doesn't "bleed". Dormammu even said "if you can call it that". PF Scott bleeding is to be expected since he's a living being in possession of the PF. The PF itself has never bled. The PF doesn't need to eat to survive. Galactus has not only bled, he's drooled, he's sweated, and his skin even shriveled when he was near death :

This happened during Annihilation too (the shriveled skin but I can't find the scan).
So underneath all that power cosmic he's still Galan (as Doom proved when he drained him dry).

The IB having a physical form makes perfect sense since he's the meeting point and balance between all dualities. Physical/Abstract, God/Man, Life/Death, etc...

c) Galactus did NOT continuously break down the Elders in his stomach. That was the whole problem. His body doesn't continuously break down food. He atomized them and ate them and thought that was the end of it but it wasn't :

Champion even explains it.

d) Your loss (the not watching the youtube comics that is). It's all explained right there. Magus played Galactus for a fool and he was his pawn all along. Anyone that wants to see the proof can click the links and watch the videos with scans from the appropriate comic (which I don't feel like hunting down and posting right about now).

The "third force" stuff regarding Galactus is explained by the Living Tribunal himself in the scan I provided above. If that's what makes Galactus an "abstract" or "concept" in your eyes then I guess the parts of the human brain are "abstracts" and "concepts" too.

And Galactus is the balance between Eternity and Death:
http://i41.tinypic.com/n6756r.jpg

Which is exactly what In-Betweener is for Order and Chaos:
http://i40.tinypic.com/14t5xyx.jpg

The "third force"

And here Galactus explains he is destruction, also the absence of opposites, and In-Betweener says he is the opposite of Galactus
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff240/Branlactus/Fights/In-Betweener/5.jpg
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff240/Branlactus/Fights/In-Betweener/silversurfer198801810qn8.jpg
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff240/Branlactus/Fights/In-Betweener/silversurfer198801813nr0.jpg
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff240/Branlactus/Fights/In-Betweener/silversurfer198801817mt9.jpg

Anyway, destruction, destruction, destruction.
Do I need to say it again in my post for you to finally acknowledge it?

But Eternity did bleed. Unless you're under the assumption that all that ooze that coincidentally was leaking out from him all over the ground from when he was defeated wasn't Eternity's blood.
He must have just pissed his pants.

Considering the actual force appears to be tangible fire, it'd be impossible to tell. But also considering it's been shattered into billions of pieces, weakened, drained, impaled, clipped, destroyed, etc, I don't think not bleeding is helping its case.
Although, like I said before, your rules are shit anyway. Jean when she was basically the force was gushing blood when Xorneto shattered her and the Force into billions of pieces.

Yeah, that's what happens when you choose to take a physical form. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose.
Although lol at you using drooling as some sort of low feat.

Like I've already proven, Galactus is IB's opposite.
But I have some queries. First off, where was it stated that In-Betweener is man?
Second, so we should ignore him bleeding because it suits his purpose? But we shouldn't ignore Galactus bleeding because of his purpose of destruction shouldn't include hunger, or the ability to bleed?
Can you like not pretend you're not being a hypocrite right now?

"To be an abstract you have to not bleed... except Eternity because that clearly wasn't blood, Phoenix Force hosts, and IB because uh... MAN!"

So, that's the part you respond to?
Galactus breaking down the Elders didn't happen?
What about the part where he was being continuously attacked by a being who took down Death?
You keep ****ing dodging that like your life depends on it. I've made a big point of that many times, including the post you quoted, and instead you decided to respond to a tiny part of the very point.
That was your big first point even of why we should lowball Galactus, and yet you refuse to even acknowledge why it could have happened.

GALACTUS WAS BEING ATTACKED BY THIS BEING:
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/comic/03.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/comic/04.jpg

That is why he dropped, along with them being immune to Death. You even posted a scan stated that they were attacking him. Like seriously flopflop. Drop the ego once in a while

I have the comics. I'm not watching a Youtube video.
What I want, and what I've stated I wanted was your interpretation along with the scans that follow of why exactly this is a lesser feat. I never denied that Magus "played" them, I wanted to know why him playing them meant that Galactus' feat was lessened. I want scans that show he weakened the barrier monster thing that held Infinity trapped and Eternity comatose. I want anything at all that would back up your lowballing of the feat.

Was the 'barrier' keyed to Galactus' power signature? Was the barrier weakened to allow Galactus to break it right before. Why exactly is Magus important in this discussion?

I realize you're dodging because you can't explain, but I'd really love to see your half assed attempt at trying to make sense of what you tried to say... even though you ignored the shit out of it like a zop would do.

So Galactus being stated by LT to be the balance between Eternity and Death means we must make humans abstracts? Where exactly is your correlation here? Because of a contrast? Big sigh zop. Big sigh.
Anyway, you're casually ruling it out because he explained the concepts in the best ways he could to Surfer, and this means we should ignore all the other statements stated to be the same... why? He didn't say Human brains or whatever garbage you're spewing to be the third force in Eternity and Death, he said Galactus was. As backed up by Eternity, Death, and a shitload of other things. One statement with no correlation means we should ignore all other statements? Do you listen to yourself Mr Twisty?

Originally posted by Endless Mike
Why not? Even a near-depleted Galactus was able to send out a shockwave that scoured the galaxy and killed a Watcher at the end of Annihilation. Galactus was hungry when he fought Ego, but not nearly as weak as he was at that point.

^read godhunter.

Originally posted by operator616
it's stated multiple times on panel, y'know:

http://i.imgur.com/QicxTzd.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/vHLNGvz.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/aHnDGiz.jpg

Originally posted by curryman
^read godhunter.

Originally posted by abhilegend
You mean the danger to worlds which if not checked could cause universe to crumble? How was Galactus/Ego fight endangering the whole universe?

how is this relevant exactly? yes, if this danger is not stopped it would cause the universe to crumble, your point being??

read the 3rd scan i posted, it says the universe lies at stake.
however, their battle didn't destroy galaxies, or anything like that, which is why i said galactus was treated (by the characters, i mean) as a universal threat, not that he had universal feats. On the other hand the issue also describes galactus and ego as being "two supremely powerful galactic entities"

http://i.imgur.com/mNEgI68.jpg?1

the thing which wasn't clear is whether galactus was hungry or not - the issue says that galactus consumed a world:

http://i.imgur.com/W8lSzU3.jpg?1

the bio says that as well:

http://i.imgur.com/r386V7h.jpg?1

right before their confrontation, it hints that galactus was still hungry and was seeking worlds to consume:

http://i.imgur.com/5b5fSzs.jpg?1

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Because I'm answering every one of your points while you blatantly ignore mine

And Galactus is the balance between Eternity and Death:
http://i41.tinypic.com/n6756r.jpg

Which is exactly what In-Betweener is for Order and Chaos:
http://i40.tinypic.com/14t5xyx.jpg

The "third force"

And here Galactus explains he [b]is destruction, also the absence of opposites, and In-Betweener says he is the opposite of Galactus
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff240/Branlactus/Fights/In-Betweener/5.jpg
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff240/Branlactus/Fights/In-Betweener/silversurfer198801810qn8.jpg
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff240/Branlactus/Fights/In-Betweener/silversurfer198801813nr0.jpg
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff240/Branlactus/Fights/In-Betweener/silversurfer198801817mt9.jpg

Anyway, destruction, destruction, destruction.
Do I need to say it again in my post for you to finally acknowledge it?

But Eternity did bleed. Unless you're under the assumption that all that ooze that coincidentally was leaking out from him all over the ground from when he was defeated wasn't Eternity's blood.
He must have just pissed his pants.

Considering the actual force appears to be tangible fire, it'd be impossible to tell. But also considering it's been shattered into billions of pieces, weakened, drained, impaled, clipped, destroyed, etc, I don't think not bleeding is helping its case.
Although, like I said before, your rules are shit anyway. Jean when she was basically the force was gushing blood when Xorneto shattered her and the Force into billions of pieces.

Yeah, that's what happens when you choose to take a physical form. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose.
Although lol at you using drooling as some sort of low feat.

Like I've already proven, Galactus is IB's opposite.
But I have some queries. First off, where was it stated that In-Betweener is man?
Second, so we should ignore him bleeding because it suits his purpose? But we shouldn't ignore Galactus bleeding because of his purpose of destruction shouldn't include hunger, or the ability to bleed?
Can you like not pretend you're not being a hypocrite right now?

"To be an abstract you have to not bleed... except Eternity because that clearly wasn't blood, Phoenix Force hosts, and IB because uh... MAN!"

So, that's the part you respond to?
Galactus breaking down the Elders didn't happen?
What about the part where he was being continuously attacked by a being who took down Death?
You keep ****ing dodging that like your life depends on it. I've made a big point of that many times, including the post you quoted, and instead you decided to respond to a tiny part of the very point.
That was your big first point even of why we should lowball Galactus, and yet you refuse to even acknowledge why it could have happened.

GALACTUS WAS BEING ATTACKED BY THIS BEING:
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/comic/03.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/comic/04.jpg

That is why he dropped, along with them being immune to Death. You even posted a scan stated that they were attacking him. Like seriously flopflop. Drop the ego once in a while

I have the comics. I'm not watching a Youtube video.
What I want, and what I've stated I wanted was your interpretation along with the scans that follow of why exactly this is a lesser feat. I never denied that Magus "played" them, I wanted to know why him playing them meant that Galactus' feat was lessened. I want scans that show he weakened the barrier monster thing that held Infinity trapped and Eternity comatose. I want anything at all that would back up your lowballing of the feat.

Was the 'barrier' keyed to Galactus' power signature? Was the barrier weakened to allow Galactus to break it right before. Why exactly is Magus important in this discussion?

I realize you're dodging because you can't explain, but I'd really love to see your half assed attempt at trying to make sense of what you tried to say... even though you ignored the shit out of it like a zop would do.

So Galactus being stated by LT to be the balance between Eternity and Death means we must make humans abstracts? Where exactly is your correlation here? Because of a contrast? Big sigh zop. Big sigh.
Anyway, you're casually ruling it out because he explained the concepts in the best ways he could to Surfer, and this means we should ignore all the other statements stated to be the same... why? He didn't say Human brains or whatever garbage you're spewing to be the third force in Eternity and Death, he said Galactus was. As backed up by Eternity, Death, and a shitload of other things. One statement with no correlation means we should ignore all other statements? Do you listen to yourself Mr Twisty? [/B]

Smh...