Master Sipha Dias Is Qui Gon!!

Started by Darth Subjekt9 pages

Youre full of sith, Im full of sith..we're all full of sith!!!

I'm full of turkey from yesterday.

Anyways, FullOfSith, more or less right. Just not accurately written. ermm

ya its been a while since i read the book, but if you havent read it it has an important scene where yoda actually talks with obi wan

its not his visible spirit but his voice and they talk about the future of the jedi etc if i recall correctly

if your really interested in the subject you should pick up the book, its paperback now. much better than the film itself.

So what's your point?

The problem of saying that QGJ recognised flaws in the order is that it distracts from him having his own flaws. He was hardly a paragon.

Originally posted by Darth Subjekt
You're full of sith, Im full of sith..we're all full of sith!!!

😱

people are still trying to sell this snake oil?

Sell? Hardly...

ok to end this sipha dias thing

its dooku in the game star wars bounty hunter at the end dooku asks jango if he would like to clone himeself for immortality so if dooku thought it up its dooku just using jango for his plans tho

It was quite clearly stated in Episode II. The Prime Minister of Kamino says Sifo Dyas was a member of the Jedi Council. Qui-Gon was never on the Council, due to his maverick ways. The deaths of the two so close are mere coincidence. It's not him; END OF THREAD.

Originally posted by yettoh
ok to end this sipha dias thing

its dooku in the game star wars bounty hunter at the end dooku asks jango if he would like to clone himeself for immortality so if dooku thought it up its dooku just using jango for his plans tho

That is EU.

But it was Dooku. He was technically on the council as one time and could just say that he was Syfo Dias. Would you put it past him? Anyway, it's not QGJ, case closed, end of discussion.

I agree.

I sort of had the theory that Darth Plaqueis might have been Sipha Dias, Perhaps the original Sith Takeover plan was for Sipha Dias to become head of the Jedi Council while Palpatine became Supreme Chancallor, however due to Sidious's impatience and power hungry attitute could not wait for Plaqueis's plan to work so he killed him. This would mean that Sidious trained Maul in secret while Plaqueis lived. This cuts everything pretty close but doesn't Obi Wan say to Mace and Yoda that he thought he died longer than 10 years ago. Either way the new Darth Plaqueis book will tear this theory all to hell anyway.

Originally posted by queeq
I agree.

I always thought it would be neat if it was Qui-Gon.

1. We know Qui-Gon often went against the council.
2. Qui-Gon had a close relationship with Dooku.

Especially obvious when Dooku told Kenobi that Qui-Gon would have joined him (which honestly I think he might have and been the one non-corrupt element of the CIS)

It would give Qui-Gon a greater lasting impact in the saga.

Whatever, it fit, especially the time of death. But I would have rather Kenobi said "never heard of him" rather than "oh I knew him and he died"

Worthless waste of a role in the saga.

So Qui-Gon ordered clones??? That would be weird.

I think it would warrant more explination and his aquaitance with Jango, but I wouldn't see it as out of character.

Why not? That'd make QGJ an advocate for a grand army of the Republic... but with what purpose?

To have the Jedi use agaisnt future military incursions.

Wha... Whaaat???? I don't get that, what are you saying?