The fact I want to see the bully of the world taken down a peg does not make me pro- communist, pro suicide bombings pro dictatorships or anything you want to accuse me of.
It makes me one pissed of citizen of earth who doesnt want some man at the top making decisions that could alter the length of my life.
Originally posted by The Inkeeper
warned of what?
America always says its going to do things then doesnt, i trust uncle sam as far as i can throw them.America is the worst thing to appen to the world and the sooner sombody teaches them a MAJOR lesson the better.
u cant possibly be saying that!! how ****ing hard is it to understand that if it isnt the U.S there is gonna be another "country-bully" there's no way to stop it! its like in school, jocks kick geek's asses, it sucks!! BIG TIME but there's nothing we can do about it!! for all we know if the U.S were just a country like... brazil trading would be way worse... technology wouldnt be so sophisticated... and for all we know the U.K would be the new "bully"
Originally posted by WindDancer
You just made the Soviets, Osama Bin Laden, and Al Qeda and Saddam very happy with that comment.[edit note] How could I forget Good Ol' Kim? 🙄
And you forgot me too. 🙂
The world isn't made for power-munchers and poverty places, it just has those. With supieriority comes war.
Originally posted by Linkalicious
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But I don't see how any of the premises you presented help you to reach your conclusion that America is just as reckless and dangerous as any other country that has nuclear weapons.
Simple. America apparently likes starting and appearing in conflicts with other countries for rash ideals. They don't like the idea of being held back by world authority (namely the UN) on such matters. They don't like being able to build new weapons of mass destruction themselves and not able to adaquately test them in the field of battle. So they start a war on some illegal basis and pretty soon Iraq is levelled to the ground. The fact that they threaten nuclear-armed dictators with force will eventually come back to bite them when Washington D.C. is reduced to a pile of ash. America thinks they are invincible. 9/11 woke them up but at the same time instead of trying to gain support for peace they obliterated an innocent country out of revenge for the actions of a man living in a cave in Afghanistan. Thats reckless and dangerous actions of a country for you.
Originally posted by Lord Shadow Z
Simple. America apparently likes starting and appearing in conflicts with other countries for rash ideals. They don't like the idea of being held back by world authority (namely the UN) on such matters.
The interesting thing about authority is....without the power to enforce that authority....it's not really authority to begin with.
Why do you think teachers teach the classes and not the students? No power...no authority.
UN allegedly has authority...but they have no power to enforce it.
They don't like being able to build new weapons of mass destruction themselves and not able to adaquately test them in the field of battle.
wait...ummm...hold on.....nope. I'm sure of it. I have no clue what you're trying to say with this sentence.
So they start a war on some illegal basis and pretty soon Iraq is levelled to the ground.
The country is far from leveled to the ground. Basic necessities like clean water, electricity, and protection were ALWAYS a problem in Iraq and Saddam Hussein was more interested in washing his hands from golden faucets in marble floored palaces than ever worrying about the general welfare of his country...especially the Kurds.
The fact that they threaten nuclear-armed dictators with force will eventually come back to bite them when Washington D.C. is reduced to a pile of ash. America thinks they are invincible.
wow...why don't you tell us what you really think?
How is Korea going to deliever a nuke to D.C.? Oh wait...they can't. 😐
Thinks they are invincible....really? Name one American that thinks America is invincible. Good. Luck.
9/11 woke them up but at the same time instead of trying to gain support for peace they obliterated an innocent country out of revenge for the actions of a man living in a cave in Afghanistan. Thats reckless and dangerous actions of a country for you.
Have you ever dealt with a school bully before? You know...they're tough and violent...so you give them your lunch money because you don't want any more violence...you want peace. Cool, you got peace for the day...what happens tomorrow when the bully knows that instead of having to fight for the money, that you'll just give it up for free?
When you get punched in the face, you don't apologize for your face getting in the way of their fist. You put up your fists and fight like a man.
Yah...yah, we don't have Osama. When was the last time he attacked America? Where are all these horrible attrocities in America that he's promised?
What happened in Iraq was not because of Osama Bin Laden. It was Bush's personal vendetta. It was about oil, it was about removing Saddam, it was about inserting democracy into the middle east.
Dresden was obliterated. Hiroshima was obliterated. Iraq is FARRRR from obliterated. They are making progress. Or did you miss the whole Iraqi election a couple of weeks ago?
Originally posted by Linkalicious
The country is far from leveled to the ground. Basic necessities like clean water, electricity, and protection were ALWAYS a problem in Iraq and Saddam Hussein was more interested in washing his hands from golden faucets in marble floored palaces than ever worrying about the general welfare of his country...especially the Kurds.
Note: Iraq was the most advanced Arab nation previous to the first Gulf War. With the embargo and harsh US sanctions on the nation, it then transformed into the weakest nation, where even Kuwait, the country Hussein invaded, did not fear an attack and even had a more stable ecomony. Incidently, it was the sanctions that kept Iraq in a depleted state, where half a million Iraqi children were starving to death, and dying of diseases that could have been easily cured. Now suffering through another war, depleted uranium radiation is now also infecting the population.
And North Korea may have only done a strategic ploy, a bluff call, to the US to stave off certain US intervention. While there is high speculation on whether North Korea are in the process of creating nuclear weapons, and even with their own admission that they are in possession of such bombs, it is still very unclear as to how North Korea ever funded, created, and kept their weapons. South Korean media and studies deny that they are in possession of nuclear weapons. Also, North Korea is lacking the proper machinery and know-how on how to create the weapons. With the Iraqi invasion, Rice's warnings, and Bush's State of the Union address, it seems that North Korea had to play a card that could help them buy time: making the US stall on their plans to 'democratise' them.
Originally posted by A4E
u cant possibly be saying that!! how ****ing hard is it to understand that if it isnt the U.S there is gonna be another "country-bully" there's no way to stop it! its like in school, jocks kick geek's asses, it sucks!! BIG TIME but there's nothing we can do about it!! for all we know if the U.S were just a country like... brazil trading would be way worse... technology wouldnt be so sophisticated... and for all we know the U.K would be the new "bully"
Well there wasn'T always a bully in worlds History though
Always looking for someone to blame for the worlds problems. North Korea, Iran, Syria, Lybia were all persuing nuclear technology long before Bush came around. The problem isnt Bush, the problem is we are a race/people whose specialty is tribal warfare. We got smart enough to BUILD weapons of mass destruction without being SMART enough to use the technology properly .
Originally posted by Linkaliciouswait...ummm...hold on.....nope. I'm sure of it. I have no clue what you're trying to say with this sentence.
The country is far from leveled to the ground. Basic necessities like clean water, electricity, and protection were ALWAYS a problem in Iraq and Saddam Hussein was more interested in washing his hands from golden faucets in marble floored palaces than ever worrying about the general welfare of his country...especially the Kurds.
wow...why don't you tell us what you really think?
How is Korea going to deliever a nuke to D.C.? Oh wait...they can't. 😐
Thinks they are invincible....really? Name one American that thinks America is invincible. Good. Luck.
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Firstly, I'll talk about your first stab at trying to sound intelligent. I'll put it into simple terms for you. America has WMDS. They want to use them on people to test them out. Okay, that wasn't so difficult to understand was it? Ah, I can see that faint shimmer of your brain cell catching on now.
Secondly, since you obviously get American television which the news reports co-incidently is biased in all aspects of your culture to show only the good things happening so it's no surprise you believe that Iraq is in good condition. If you think its that good, go live there. No? You don't want to? I thought not.
Thirdly, your naive American brain has again automatically proved my point. According to your statement " How is Korea going to deliever a nuke to D.C.? Oh wait...they can't. 😐" reinforces the fact that you believe America to be above a missile attack from such a poor country like Korea yet a handful of people from Afghanistan can defeat American national security and hi-jack planes and crash them into the twin towers.
One American who thinks America is invincible: George W. Bush
Another: Possibly Linkalicious but then he'd have to think and well, it's not going to happen.
Originally posted by Lord Shadow ZSecondly, since you obviously get American television which the news reports co-incidently is biased in all aspects of your culture to show only the good things happening so it's no surprise you believe that Iraq is in good condition. If you think its that good, go live there. No? You don't want to? I thought not.
See, you're speaking without knowing a thing. American media DOES report every day the amount of casualties happening in Iraq. Everyday there is always a report of some car bombing or an attack on American military or Coalition or new Iraqi government people. So your assumption that we Americans think that all is good in Iraq is false. We know that everyday something bad is happening in Iraq.
Originally posted by Lord Shadow Z
Thirdly, your naive American brain has again automatically proved my point. According to your statement " How is Korea going to deliever a nuke to D.C.? Oh wait...they can't. 😐" reinforces the fact that you believe America to be above a missile attack from such a poor country like Korea yet a handful of people from Afghanistan can defeat American national security and hi-jack planes and crash them into the twin towers.
You put the words "naive" and "American" to close to each other. I don't know what your beef is with America, but you're speaking volumes with your comments. That's all...I'm out.