Why the Rest of the World Hates U.S.

Started by Linkalicious13 pages

Originally posted by KharmaDog
People have stated that many countries hate the U.S. because those countries are jealous of the U.S.'s standard of living.

The top ten countries with the Highest Standard of Living are as follows:

1. Norway
2. Sweden
3. Canada
4. Belgium
5. Australia
6. United States
7. Iceland
8. Netherlands
9. Japan
10.Finland

(stats provided by Infobase Pvt. Ltd.)

So if jealousy is a core reason for the resentment of the U.S. (government and policies) then why don't these countries also experience the same resentment? Also, why do many people in these countries also harbour ill feelings to American government and policies if they have nothing to be jealous about (especially the top 4)?

What's the combined population of the top four countries?

What's the population of the United States?

More people, with a lesser education, receive a much greater quality of living because they live in the United States.

It's like saying a state has the highest standard of living in a nation...and then pointing out that the nicest town in another state has a higher standard of living. It's an average. For the United States to be as large as it is...and maintain such a high standard of living is something to be jealous about.

actually, the way in which america maintains that high standard of living for so many people who hardly work is very questionable, america takes advantage of many countrie's hard work to provide for its people while those countries struggle to just provide food for their citizens

Where you from?

I only ask because if you're not a citizen of the United States, or if you haven't actually lived here to find out first hand....then who are you to say that American's hardly work?

What's a standard working day in your country?

Most people in the United States don't get by working a 9-5 job. Either you have the rare business person who's at the top of the ladder, a dual income household (both adults), or a person has to work 2 jobs.

and I'm sure you must be referring to "hard working" countries like North Korea who are more concerned about establishing a nuclear weapons program than providing their people with adequate power and food (which they relied on the horrible US to provide)

Yeah.. I've heard this was the case...
The US is renowned as being as being where the UK is going....
Super rich and Super poor citizens with a million miles of distance in between.... Good luck getting healthcare if you're broke in the US...
In regards to this factor alone,
How can anyone in the US not look at Canada right now and go...
"Christ...? How come WE aren't like that....?"
What the hell is there to be jealous of the States with THAT as a standard of living?

and I'm sure you must be referring to "hard working" countries like North Korea who are more concerned about establishing a nuclear weapons program than providing their people with adequate power and food

Are you inferring that the American gov't provides food and power for it's own people? I was of the understanding that american people had to pay for their own food and power.

In fact when it comes to providing for their citizens, I believe the U.S. has the highest percentage of starving children than any other developed nation.

No, I'm not saying that the American government provides food and power for it's own people because that would utterly demolish personal industries and privately owned businesses/farms.

The American government monitors and puts it's hands all over different products in order to keep the prices competitive in the market. That's all it needs to do...American's are competitive enough to keep the industry a float.

And considering the growth rate of America in comparison to truly "developed" nations...I'd say it's doing pretty damn well. The United States is being compared to European nations with often times much much longer histories, lower populations, and less growth per year.

I'd like to think providing adequate food for 300,000,000 people is significantly more difficult than providing food for 60,000,000 people.

9-5 job got u down, lol, im not from america but ive lived there, and my work i mean lifting and manually transporting bricks weighing over 100 kg on a sunny day in pakistan or afghanistan with no clothes to cover or protect ur back, u do this from 8 am till 5 pm, and u get around oh about 2 american dollars for it, u go home{which is actually a single mudded room} u try to make ends meet but dont even have enough to feed urself let alone feed ur family, u argue with ur wife over money and see ur children cry because of hunger and desease, u go to sleep for four hours and wake up the next morning doing the same thing, and in conditions which would make an american puke or suffocate, to make ends meet u borrow money from a money lender maybe 5 or 10 dollars if ur lucky but the interest on it is so high that u can never EVER repay it and u work in a brick kiln or as a beggar for that money lender till the end of ur days.

thats the kinda work the people in the 3rd world do, and thats excluding many many other problems not to mention the mental degenration and extreme tension that occurs from havin a life like that.

Originally posted by leonheartmm
9-5 job got u down, lol, im not from america but ive lived there, and my work i mean lifting and manually transporting bricks weighing over 100 kg on a sunny day in pakistan or afghanistan with no clothes to cover or protect ur back, u do this from 8 am till 5 pm, and u get around oh about 2 american dollars for it, u go home{which is actually a single mudded room} u try to make ends meet but dont even have enough to feed urself let alone feed ur family, u argue with ur wife over money and see ur children cry because of hunger and desease, u go to sleep for four hours and wake up the next morning doing the same thing, and in conditions which would make an american puke or suffocate, to make ends meet u borrow money from a money lender maybe 5 or 10 dollars if ur lucky but the interest on it is so high that u can never EVER repay it and u work in a brick kiln or as a beggar for that money lender till the end of ur days.

A few months back someone in the Movie Discussion forum posted what I thought at the time was a world record for the longest run-on sentence. But holy sh*t! This one's tough to beat.

BTW, leonheartmm, I don't think you read Link's post clearly. And also, there are millions in the US who work heavy-industrial labor. Just because they aren't in the physical location of Pakistan or aren't as creative in creating run-on sentences doesn't take anything away from them.

What's the average education level for a citizen in a 3rd world country?

When I was in High School I used to move peoples houses during the summer for minimum wage. Pianos, sofa beds, grandfather clocks....up 2...sometimes 3 stories.

I got out of high school, started getting a college education and right now at the age of 22 I make GREAT money and I do nothing but sit on my ass and pound a key board writing code all day.

Managers (the highly educated people) don't work as hard as their subordinates (those with a lesser education) It's how the world works.

No dude I don't think you understand capitalism. You get paid for wqhat your work is worth to someone else. If some common worker could write code as good as you well he would get the same amount of money as you and if you decide to carry sofas around again you will only get minimum wage (well probably more since its easy to use High School Students)

Originally posted by Linkalicious
What's the average education level for a citizen in a 3rd world country?

When I was in High School I used to move peoples houses during the summer for minimum wage. Pianos, sofa beds, grandfather clocks....up 2...sometimes 3 stories.

I got out of high school, started getting a college education and right now at the age of 22 I make GREAT money and I do nothing but sit on my ass and pound a key board writing code all day.

Managers (the highly educated people) don't work as hard as their subordinates (those with a lesser education) It's how the world works.

but as you yourself mentioned once, you were very lucky to get that job, and it is NOT something which is available for average college student

Originally posted by Bardock42
No dude I don't think you understand capitalism. You get paid for wqhat your work is worth to someone else. If some common worker could write code as good as you well he would get the same amount of money as you and if you decide to carry sofas around again you will only get minimum wage (well probably more since its easy to use High School Students)

Indeed thats the idealism behind it, but conservatism is perhaps the ism in charge with the unfair pay thing.... Which indeed is why the Labour government is still in power in the UK, because they're scared of voting in the conservatives for there tax/pay policies, when Ironically Blair's
"New Labour"(In other words secretly Neo-conserative) is screwing the public the very same way..........

WHat unfair pay thing are you talking aboot?

The "Unfair pay thing" means a guy in a cushy office pushing a few buttons for the same (Even less) hours gets wayyyyyyy more than someone doing harder work with perhaps less perks, rights and benefits...
.....Oh And lets not forget the US current tax hike thing.
Another conservative mechanism for sapping the money from the little guy and sharing it among the Rich elite. So with this whole way of life,
The rich get richer cause, in essance the government pay you for being rich, while the little guy can go hang.......

Originally posted by Bardock42
No dude I don't think you understand capitalism. You get paid for what your work is worth to someone else. If some common worker could write code as good as you well he would get the same amount of money as you and if you decide to carry sofas around again you will only get minimum wage (well probably more since its easy to use High School Students)

Oh I understand exactly what Capitalism is...but I'm glad you think otherwise.

Indeed, I do get paid based on what someone thinks the "product" , not the work, that I do is worth. The reason why I get paid this much is because "some common worker" from off the street can't do the job...so it's more valuable than someone who picks strawberries for a living....because everyone with two hands can do the job.

Now I think I understand the point that you're trying to make by pointing out that, regardless of education, doing a low paying job is going to earn you less money.

But the point I'm trying to make is that if you have the proper education, and use it to it's potential, then there is no need to do a low paying job.

I'd like to think providing adequate food for 300,000,000 people is significantly more difficult than providing food for 60,000,000 people.

But your government doesn't supply the food. Corporations and business people do. It's about money, not saving a population from starving.
Actually it should be easier to support a larger population than another country because your resources are more diverse.

That being said, there are many citizens in the united states starving and can't get food because they have no money.

Of course being more skilled makes you more valueable anfd tgherefore you deserve money. It s a great system, you should have a minimum of social security though. Why don't you like capitalism.

Originally posted by Clovie
but as you yourself mentioned once, you were very lucky to get that job, and it is NOT something which is available for average college student

I'm trying to follow you...but i don't see the point you're trying to make.

Originally posted by Linkalicious
I'm trying to follow you...but i don't see the point you're trying to make.
i mean that not everyone with your level of education/age/etc has the opportunity of getting nice good payed job. nothing more.