The Holocaust that History forgot?

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The Holocaust that History forgot?

Take a look and read this article:

http://www.hinduwebsite.com/history/holocaust.htm#t

I had previously heard of the Hindu wars but never heard of a holocaust. Is this propaganda or someone actually asking for revise of history of events that happen in a part of the world we hardly pay attention too? Did historians missed this on purpose or it was just ignore?

Nanking/Nanjing holocaust is also not as well known as the nazi death camps

Quite so. And those that presided over them are revered albeit in a small way.

I remember my dad telling me something about that. The worst is the story of tamerlane storming delhi sometime in the medival times. He killed 70,000 people but he choped all thier heads off and piled them in heaps. Very disturbing history moment to me. Also many sikhs (northern Indian religion) were killed by the muslims rulers but they actually fought back really hard.

It is not made up, but that i high a number i am not sure. But it did happen 100% true.

Re: The Holocaust that History forgot?

Originally posted by WindDancer
Take a look and read this article:

http://www.hinduwebsite.com/history/holocaust.htm#t

I had previously heard of the Hindu wars but never heard of a holocaust. Is this propaganda or someone actually asking for revise of history of events that happen in a part of the world we hardly pay attention too? Did historians missed this on purpose or it was just ignore?

I don't think it is completely ignored but this particular holocaust that was perpetrated spanned hundreds of years vs just a few short years of the European and Asian holocausts of world war 2,that is also the most recent and being that most participants were westernised cultures is probably why our history mostly focus's on that one and seemingly forgets the atrocities on the rest of the world.

Indeed, while I never knew about this one, it is safe to say that they were less recent than people would remember.

Isn't that kind of like how American's widely acknowledge Hiroshima and Nakagawa...and generally tend to know nothing at all about Dresden.

I know it's quite a stretch...but with enough alcohol in your system...you can almost make a connection.

I don't know about that link. But I do like what BK said about time span and geography of the events. That's what plays a big part in history sometimes. Since the Jewish Holocaust is the most recent is bound to be the talk for years and years. I think that also revisionism in history will also help to find other events that haven't been recorded in our books.

in june 1984 the sikhs holiest temple was destroyed by the indian goveernment, a small handful of sikhs fought back against a whole army for 3 days!! then in november 1984 the sikhs took revenge and killed indian prime misiter, and then the hindus ritoed and killed all sikhs, women children,everyone, they raped, burned people alive etc. it was brutal

The World is not ignoring it
There are 3 reasons why this holocaust in Indie is not so popular
as for example the Holocaust of the Nazis.

First: The holocaust of the nazis happened in a time of mass communication, everybody in the world hear about this holocaust in radio, newspapers and could even see the pictures in television. There wasn't a similar situation in the time when the indian holocaust happened.

Second: History is written by the winners, so the winners of the second world war make popular the holocaust.

Third: The nazi holocaust killed about 9 million people in just 12 years, the holocaust in Indie takes hundreds of years.

there are many times in history when single groups were attacked and killed.

in june 1984 the Sikhs holiest temple was destroyed by the indian goveernment, a small handful of Sikhs fought back against a whole army for 3 days!!

I remember that and i say the Indian government purposely killed thousands in that temple. I doubt all 5-10 thousand people in there were so called terrorists. Indian Government wanted to kill the Sikhs, an the evidence is what happened at the golden temple. Also the riots in Delhi were set up because the mobs that killed people were really organized with weapons,car, gas, oil and i doubt it could have been collected in a few hours without the help of corrupt government official. To me that whole time was one big conspiracy by the Indian government to kill the Sikhs.

To compare millions getting killed through centuries of almost
constant warfare and chaos, with millions getting killed through
willful policy of mass-murder is not fair, to sayt he least.

The fact is, millions of Chinese, as well of west-, Central Asian
muslims lost their lives during the Mongol invasions and wars
of the 13-14th centuries, but I wouldn't compare that in "nature"
to the WWII Holocaust. Probably even more than those of India
in those five centuries, and here in only less than half the time.

The Middle Ages, like Ancient Times, and indeed much of human
history, was filled with constant warfare and violence, where more
often than not human life was worth little to rulers and soldiers
(much like today, though today the civilian populations,
especially in the West, is less tolerant of their leaders commiting
mass atrocities).

A better comparison with the WWII Holocaust, would be the
Armenian Genocide, or Rwanda, or the mass killing of the North
American Indians.

That site was just sectarian propoganda. Probably run by one
of those extremist Hindu "nationalists" who hate Muslims,
Christians, and Buddhists with equal fervor.

...it's sad, man.

Originally posted by King Burger
To compare millions getting killed through centuries of almost
constant warfare and chaos, with millions getting killed through
willful policy of mass-murder is not fair, to sayt he least.

The fact is, millions of Chinese, as well of west-, Central Asian
muslims lost their lives during the Mongol invasions and wars
of the 13-14th centuries, but I wouldn't compare that in "nature"
to the WWII Holocaust. Probably even more than those of India
in those five centuries, and here in only less than half the time.

The Middle Ages, like Ancient Times, and indeed much of human
history, was filled with constant warfare and violence, where more
often than not human life was worth little to rulers and soldiers
(much like today, though today the civilian populations,
especially in the West, is less tolerant of their leaders commiting
mass atrocities).

A better comparison with the WWII Holocaust, would be the
Armenian Genocide, or Rwanda, or the mass killing of the North
American Indians.

That site was just sectarian propoganda. Probably run by one
of those extremist Hindu "nationalists" who hate Muslims,
Christians, and Buddhists with equal fervor.

I don't think is about comparison in the full sense of the word. I think is more like awareness and educating and informing people that this happen.

Before posting their site, I check to see if it was an extremist site:

http://www.hinduwebsite.com/aimsplans.htm

I don't think they're extremists.....maybe bias...but extremist? no.

bias, every group has extremsits!

Originally posted by Linkalicious
Isn't that kind of like how American's widely acknowledge Hiroshima and Nakagawa...and generally tend to know nothing at all about Dresden.

I know it's quite a stretch...but with enough alcohol in your system...you can almost make a connection.

Why must everything come back to America bashing? I know that the perception is that Americans are short sighted narcisissts who care only about ourselves, but that is far from realistic. Most Americans are good, humane and tolerant people. I am not blind to the fact that there are those that are bigoted and selfcentered but they are hardly in the majority. It just so happens, as with everything else, the bad stuff is what gets reported and discussed....

If you look at how long ago it was, you will find your reason.
ITs so long ago that some of the facts cannot be accurate and its bound to be forgotton...

Originally posted by King Burger
A better comparison with the WWII Holocaust, would be the
Armenian Genocide, or Rwanda, or the mass killing of the North
American Indians.

Now, I know my opinion is a little compromised considering that I'm Native. ("American"😉 But, I agree with this statement. That's all I came in to say.

Originally posted by bilb
Why must everything come back to America bashing? I know that the perception is that Americans are short sighted narcisissts who care only about ourselves, but that is far from realistic. Most Americans are good, humane and tolerant people. I am not blind to the fact that there are those that are bigoted and selfcentered but they are hardly in the majority. It just so happens, as with everything else, the bad stuff is what gets reported and discussed....

Too true, too true.

Though the number of a**holes here in this country is
growing, sadly.