How can Hinduism go back to 3000 BC, when the Indus Valley
Civilization began in 2500 BC, and it's religion seems to be
an Earth-goddess type (the written language has not been
deciphered yet)?
Obviously the religion and dieties that the Aryans brought with
them, like the language, merged with indigenous elements to
create Hinduism and Sanskrit. The same thing ahppened in
Greece and other areas iinvaded by PIE speakers. But without
the Aryans, there would be no Hinduims, atleast not the way
it came to be.
But look, whatever you say.
There are Chinese who say their civilization is the oldest in
the world, and that they invented everything.
There are Mexicans who say theat their civilization goes
back 5000 years, instead of the 2500-3000 years.
There are Iranians who say that their civilization, along with
Zoroastrianism, goes back to 6000 BC (!).
Believe whatever you want, my good man.
Originally posted by King BurgerI don't get the Jerusalem reference.
The example of Saudi Arabia is stupid. There are muslims
outside the country as well.
You don't get many things it seems.
Jerusalem and Saudi Arabia both sprung their own religion, Judaism(Christianity) and Islam, just the same as India sprung Hinusim!
There are muslims outside Saudi Arabia, so what? There are Jews outside Jerusalem just as there are Hindus outside India.
There was no way in hell that muslims could have converted Hindus on their own land where their religion (way older than that of islam) begun - they would all ahve to be dead, as they would never convert, just as Muslims in Saudi Arabia would not convert to some religion if that religion invaded and threatened Saudi Arabia and Just as Jews wont convert to Islam or Christianity or voodoo or any other religion, especially because they are in the very centre of where their religion started.
Forced conversion in these placed would have never happened, which also ties with my point in the post above you missed and your claim of ''India isnt perdominantly Muslim''
Not all that difficult.
And noone knows how old Hindusim in reality, so that argument is not going anywher - one thing that is for certain, Hindusim is older than Judaism/Christianity or Islam.
Originally posted by lil bitchiness
You don't get many things it seems.
Hmm, cute.
No one can get another group to convert in their own
land, or in their religion's own birth-place?
If so, then Christianity, Islam, Judaism, Hinuism,
Buddhism, and all other religions would never
have spread beyond their birth-places, since every
land the'd go to, would have it's own native religion.
Jerusalem? Where do you think all the Christians
and Muslims there came from? They were people
converted, from Judaism or from the still-pagan
Canaanites. Or maybe you believe that zionist
nonesense that all Christians and Muslims in
the Holy Land are all descendants from foreigners?
The religions of Egypt and Mesopotamis are older
than Hinduism, but that didn't stop the Roman
government frm successfully converting most of the
population into the faith.