The most fundamental question.

I know, we did off the topic 😑

Ultimate question: Why?

ANswer1: Why Not?
Answer2: Because.

There is only one being and that is thinking.

maybe you should consider doing it then

tHE MORE WE THINK THE LESS WE DO, THE MORE WE DO THE LESS WE THINK.

doing much of the latter lately huh?

So, you're quite actionless then?

i can do both simultaneously

I can walk and chew gum simultaneously

If you can't have some kind of thought or consciousness, then you cannot "Be"

I think therefore I am.....

there is no true definition of existance, existance and non existance are two extremes in our mind but they exist only as abstractions in our minds and nothing more, there is NO existance or non existance they dont.........exist.

Originally posted by leonheartmm
there is no true definition of existance, existance and non existance are two extremes in our mind but they exist only as abstractions in our minds and nothing more, there is NO existance or non existance they dont.........exist.

I've had days where I feel quite abstract, to the point of parallel.

HI Philosophicus I came across your question and thought I may be able to help by suggesting a book by Martin Heidegger called Being and Time. I studied a little of Heidegger in college for philosophy but I found his writings difficult to read. I think perhaps there might be something in there to give an understanding. Unfortunately it has been awhile since read the book and I know I wouldn't be able to give justice to his viewpoints. If you find it helpful please fill me in and perhaps you can help me understand it better as well. Good luck.

words can explain so much, but words are nowhere near enough to explain such concepts, youd have to have telepathy i guess, to convey ur point of view to the next person. i think i can define being, but not in words, its not possible.

'Being' in its most abstract and purest form really seems to be a concept not truly owned by any human being. I think that being is an action of self-escape (explained here: http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f75/t366823.html ), but as to what it is in itself, I don't know.

Im really sick of this question...imagine a baby was just born...then it instantly dies for some unknown and tragic reason, what was its purpose? To live and die 2 seconds later? It had no greater purpose, just to live 2 seconds and die. Same with us, we have no purpose, we just do what we do, we lived longer than the 2 second old baby and I suppose it could logically be called a "fuller" life but it is all relative and it matters not. I think people who believe our moral choices define us, give us purpose, and even determine what kind of "afterlife" we have are borderline retarded. Yes that was blunt but sometimes humans simply amaze me with the amount of stupidity they display.

Originally posted by Great Vengeance
Im really sick of this question...imagine a baby was just born...then it instantly dies for some unknown and tragic reason, what was its purpose? To live and die 2 seconds later? It had no greater purpose, just to live 2 seconds and die. Same with us, we have no purpose, we just do what we do, we lived longer than the 2 second old baby and I suppose it could logically be called a "fuller" life but it is all relative and it matters not. I think people who believe our moral choices define us, give us purpose, and even determine what kind of "afterlife" we have are borderline retarded. Yes that was blunt but sometimes humans simply amaze me with the amount of stupidity they display.

My friend, with all due respect, it is you who is displaying stupidity (in my opinion). The baby may not have had a purpose at first glance, but look at the effect on the mother! God may be punishing her for some misdeed, or he may even be punishing the doctor who delivered it because he may end up feeling guilty. Or, it could even lead to the mother realizing a fundamental fact of life, or it could spurr her to live life to the fullest. You never know. Please consider all possible outcomes before you start calling people borderline retarded.

But don't worry, I am amazed sometimes at people's stupidity as well.

*cough*yours*cough*

lol j/k

Originally posted by occultus
My friend, with all due respect, it is you who is displaying stupidity (in my opinion). The baby may not have had a purpose at first glance, but look at the effect on the mother! God may be punishing her for some misdeed, or he may even be punishing the doctor who delivered it because he may end up feeling guilty. Or, it could even lead to the mother realizing a fundamental fact of life, or it could spurr her to live life to the fullest. You never know. Please consider all possible outcomes before you start calling people borderline retarded.

What kind of a lame god would kill a baby to achieve some other goal? A punitive god!? If god created all things, then he's responsible for it, and if he knew what a person was going to be like before even having created it, then how can he punish it!?

No this is stupidity in its essence. God is greater than this ridiculous theory about him which you have.

Originally posted by occultus
My friend, with all due respect, it is you who is displaying stupidity (in my opinion). The baby may not have had a purpose at first glance, but look at the effect on the mother! God may be punishing her for some misdeed, or he may even be punishing the doctor who delivered it because he may end up feeling guilty. Or, it could even lead to the mother realizing a fundamental fact of life, or it could spurr her to live life to the fullest. You never know. Please consider all possible outcomes before you start calling people borderline retarded.

Honestly...

"My friend" If god killed a mothers baby to teach the mother a lesson, god is a bastard...Your probably a christian and Im sorry If I offended you with my attack on the intelligence of religous people, it really isnt my place to do so but still to think there is a land of eternal paradise waiting for you after you die is *IMHO* close minded.