Re: My faves Derrick
Originally posted by whirlysplat😕 Aren't those american comics?
My faves are Miracleman, early Authority, early Sandman, Concrete, Grendel, early Hellblazer, Shade, Swampthing, lots of Jim Shooter stuff, Goldkey, Valiant stuff, Nexus, I thought the Nazz was a classic series. Lots more 😄
to me i think power wise juggernaut and doomsday is just alike, except that doomsday have speed and juggernaut has the force field to make up for the speed lose. If you were to take every morality that juggernaut has and make him just think about killing, i think he truly be unstoppable, it wouldnt be no force on earth that could stop him. But he has a mind and that is his weakness (telepaths).
Originally posted by derrick24Like I said Doomy cannot KO him or Kill him to win the fight, and likewise Juggy can't kill or KO Doomy so the fight would last until one or the other got tired of fighting the other or just destroy the earth in the process...Or Heroes would show up, and stop them. Or they'd team up, and beat down on the heroes. Doomsday taking out the psychics, and Juggy taking the blows of the super guys while Doomy does it. They would make up for the others weakness.
i love anime and manga myself but i still know more on comics and i know that doomsday do not have the tools to take down juggernaut.
cosic cube sayeth:
<<Do you have anything to attest to Doomsday's alleged "equal to Flash" speed?>>
nothing beyond blue beetles word in JLA #69 where he states doomsday is faster than flash. doesn't completely make sense though, but i suspect he meant his reaction time and his ability to strike at super speeds which supes commented on several times. also, during the battle, it was believed by superman that doomsday continued to get stronger - likely because we now know he adapts to attackers. i suspect if he fought hulk, he would adapt to meet hulk's growing strength, and if he fought both hulk and juggs, he would adapt to meet them both. forgetting that, he'd already adapted well beyond supes, so that puts him above juggs and anything but a mindless, fully savage hulk. but as hulk grew in strength, dd could conceiveably do likewise.
it has been established in books that both hulk and juggs can be put out by enough force. dd HAS that force, and if he doesn't at the start, he will have it by the end.
ps- saying dd was beaten by imperiex is like trashing thor for getting whooped by a full power galactus. different orders of magnitude - AND we still don't know if dd will come back from that disintegration.
<<Doomy cannot KO him [juggs] or Kill him to win the fight>.
but that's just it dd CAN. he would stand in front of juggs. juggs would push and dd wouldn't stop him. at first. but he can adapt, and eventually he WOULD stop him, like he would eventually get through his force field. he was created to be the answer to any kind of attack. he 'dies', but it does not take long for him to recover. he's adapted past the omega effect! i think you're underrating dd and overrating juggs a bit.
<<leonidis, answer this question, do you think anybody could beat doomsday.>>
in a straight up, one on one battle - no, not using purely physical means. MAYBE the destroyer, but again, even if destroyer DID beat him, dd comes back STRONGER. i really think you need one of the higher order powers to defeat him - and as i said, it stills remains to be seen if a writer will bring dd back from his imperiex defeat.
Originally posted by leonidasDon't cause its always stated that Juggy cannot be killed or KO'ed by physical force, and I'm not about to use an ability Doomy hasn't got like saying he can hit by adapting to his magic, and be able to hurt him.
<<Doomy cannot KO him [juggs] or Kill him to win the fight>.but that's just it dd CAN. he would stand in front of juggs. juggs would push and dd wouldn't stop him. at first. but he can adapt, and eventually he WOULD stop him, like he would eventually get through his force field. he was created to be the answer to any kind of attack. he 'dies', but it does not take long for him to recover. he's adapted past the omega effect! i think you're underrating dd and overrating juggs a bit.
Concievable yes, did something like it no. I just believe that Juggy, and Hulk against Doomy would end in a stalemate of titanic porportions.
im not underrating doomsday, hes a powerful character but i know what both of them is capable of. Let put it like this juggernaut was fighting a god, and they grabbed each other arm to arm during the fight. Both of them didnt let lose, earthquakes started to happen and in that comic it stated when both of them was in that lock, that it was no none force in the universe that could have broken theyre grip are caused any harm while they were doing this. Now that is power.
Originally posted by leonidasIsn't he already back? Been Jokerized, and then beating up on Gog's.
<<leonidis, answer this question, do you think anybody could beat doomsday.>>in a straight up, one on one battle - no, not using purely physical means. MAYBE the destroyer, but again, even if destroyer DID beat him, dd comes back STRONGER. i really think you need one of the higher order powers to defeat him - and as i said, it stills remains to be seen if a writer will bring dd back from his imperiex defeat.
off hand, the only time was onslaught, though war hulk was certainly going to do it. but before you say onslaught or war hulk is a bad example, (i won't bring up the time supes punched juggs out, because i know you don't like x-overs 🙂) i only brought them up to show that he CAN be beaten by sufficient force - ie his invulnerability HAS limits. limits that, in my opinion, dd can overcome.