BP is NOT smarter. And Spidey's supernatural strength/speed accustomed fighting style dwarfs all human fighting. ALL of it. For every perfectly executed flipkick(BP), there's a superior tripple somersault class 15/high velocity spin kick(SM). Now, BP has armor. That's cool. But Spiderman ain't no retard.
Spiderman 8-9/10
Originally posted by Dinalfos
BP is NOT smarter. And Spidey's supernatural strength/speed accustomed fighting style dwarfs all human fighting. ALL of it. For every perfectly executed flipkick(BP), there's a superior tripple somersault class 15/high velocity spin kick(SM). Now, BP has armor. That's cool. But Spiderman ain't no retard.Spiderman 8-9/10
You are partially right, Black Panther has his own unique Style also, to suit his supieour speed and agility. Dont get me wrong Spidey is supieour to BP in every aspect, but Black Panther is more cunning, and willing to do whatever it takes to win.
Even still Spidey takes the majority, but its a good fight none-the-less
I don't think BP is smarter either at least not scientifically. I know he's more knowledgeable and got the chance to pursue scientific studies even more than Pete who had to deal with starting his career at the age of 15 without the riches or anything.
On fight applications, he has shown cunning tactics, improvisations(temporary cure for lizard, his insulated suit against Electro, acid formulas, etc). He doesn't have the resources to further it though.
Originally posted by Apolloknight
You are partially right, Black Panther has his own unique Style also, to suit his supieour speed and agility. Dont get me wrong Spidey is supieour to BP in every aspect, but Black Panther is more cunning, and willing to do whatever it takes to win.Even still Spidey takes the majority, but its a good fight none-the-less
I would agree with that, actually. But Spiderman is, like you said, on another level.
I can UNDERSTAND the argument for Wolverine. Spiderman can't hurt him, and ONE lucky hit would kill pete. I understand that. Spiderman can dodge all day long, but eventually will tire, and get hit. I understand that.
But with Black Panther? The vibranium suit is cool and all, but Spiderman rips his head off! I don't see the contest here! Black Panther is peak human in most regards, and Spiderman is so far above that, it isn't even funny.
Hell, I would give Captain America better chances against Parker than T'challa. Both have great physiques, fighting styles, and weapons. But Steve's is indestructible, and capable of hitting a missile in mid flight.
Anyways.
Spiderman 8/10.
Originally posted by Soljer
I can UNDERSTAND the argument for Wolverine. Spider-man can't hurt him, and ONE lucky hit would kill pete. I understand that. Spider-man can dodge all day long, but eventually will tire, and get hit. I understand that.But with Black Panther? The vibranium suit is cool and all, but Spider-man rips his head off! I don't see the contest here! Black Panther is peak human in most regards, and Spider-man is so far above that, it isn't even funny.
Hell, I would give Captain America better chances against Parker than T'challa. Both have great physiques, fighting styles, and weapons. But Steve's is indestructible, and capable of hitting a missile in mid flight.
Anyways.
Spider-man 8/10.
Blackpanther's speed dwarfs all other street levelers, when you make guys like wolverine and Capt look like idiots, and BP not even trying, that counts for something. Also, Gilgamesh said he was the fastest human she ever saw, with Captain America in the same room none-the-less.
Spider-man is superior to panther, but its not a curbstomp. Also believe it or not, I think Panther recently received another upgrade, I cant confirm it yet, I have to wait on further issues and feats, but I believe he is in the Superhuman range now in terms of speed and agility.
Originally posted by ApolloknightDepends on if you call Deathstroke street-level.
Blackpanther's speed dwarfs all other street levelers, when you make guys like wolverine and Capt look like idiots, and BP not even trying, that counts for something. Also, Gilgamesh said he was the fastest human she ever saw, with Captain America in the same room none-the-less.Spider-man is superior to panther, but its not a curbstomp. Also believe it or not, I think Panther recently received another upgrade, I cant confirm it yet, I have to wait on further issues and feats, but I believe he is in the Superhuman range now in terms of speed and agility.
Originally posted by Apolloknight
Blackpanther's speed dwarfs all other street levelers, when you make guys like wolverine and Capt look like idiots, and BP not even trying, that counts for something. Also, Gilgamesh said he was the fastest human she ever saw, with Captain America in the same room none-the-less.Spider-man is superior to panther, but its not a curbstomp. Also believe it or not, I think Panther recently received another upgrade, I cant confirm it yet, I have to wait on further issues and feats, but I believe he is in the Superhuman range now in terms of speed and agility.
But the Gilgamesh quote doesn't impress me much : Gilgamesh is an idiot with the stupidest helmet ever and wasn't very experienced with the abilities / powers of other heroes: he didn't know Cap, or Thor, or Black Panther (like he probably didn't know 95 pct of the Marvel Universe).
So his opinion of BP isn't well founded.
Originally posted by Grimm22Nobody seems to remember wall crawling, precog, and webbing anymore.
Give it to BP 6/10 😉Spidey has the advatnage in speed, agility and strength
However, BP is smarter, more skilled, has senses of his own and is also very agile
BP is a better strategist in some senses, and more ruthless, but Peter is no dummy. BP's "senses" aren't like precognition either. And its been thoroughly established that he isn't as agile as Peter either.
Originally posted by who?-kid
I'm NOT underestimating BP - I know him - and indeed, he can beat most street levelers. Probably all of them.But the Gilgamesh quote doesn't impress me much : Gilgamesh is an idiot with the stupidest helmet ever and wasn't very experienced with the abilities / powers of other heroes: he didn't know Cap, or Thor, or Black Panther (like he probably didn't know 95 pct of the Marvel Universe).
So his opinion of BP isn't well founded.
*agrees*
Besides, didn't Steve beat out T'challa in the contest of champions? True, neither were fighting to full potential, but it is just an example.
The only other 'fight' between the two was T'chaka, yes? T'challa's father? And it was so long ago, that you cannot even COMPARE that Captain America to the current one.
I still maintain the a Cap/Black Panther fight would be 5/10 or a SLIGHT edge in either direction. They are pretty close to equals.
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Nobody seems to remember wall crawling, precog, and webbing anymore.BP is a better strategist in some senses, and more ruthless, but Peter is no dummy. BP's "senses" aren't like precognition either. And its been thoroughly established that he isn't as agile as Peter either.
I didnt forget about his webbing 🙂
Originally posted by Apolloknight
Agaisnt a Non-Iron Spidey, It would be a very good fight, Spiderman is faster, Stronger, and more agile then panther, but panther is not far behind, he has shown it in the way he fights, jumping off walls, blackflips and such. Plus BP has been trained since he was a boy in combat. Even still, Spidey takes a slight majority, I dont see how BP is gonna get around Spideys webbing if he ties him up, although BP claws could cut Through it, All Spiderman would need is a few seconds to toss him around and try and get to KO. Peters Strength wont count for much in this fight, Ironman even said his punches were going to be of little effect against T'challa, and BP was withstood a few blows from the Hulk in his suit.