Originally posted by abhilegend
lolwut? You think I don't know about DOS. Epic fail, I was talking about hulk scans kid.
Another fail, its Final Crisis😖uperman beyond, a 2 issue miniseries. The superman beyond you're talking about is from batman beyond, a total different universe. Stop here before you make a complete fool of yourself.
Every doomsday since OWAW where imperiex killed him is a clone of the original doomsday and every one of them is stronger than superman. Fail.
i can't tell what you know cause you sound like a ranting pubescent teen. you never specified what kind of scans you wanted, so i gave you ........scans as you requested.
either way your example sucks cause
A. he wasn't actually lifting a universe
B. he had assistance.
game...................blouses.
Originally posted by jedi90
i can't tell what you know cause you sound like a ranting pubescent teen. you never specified what kind of scans you wanted, so i gave you ........scans as you requested.either way your example sucks cause
A. he wasn't actually lifting a universe
B. he had assistance.game...................blouses.
Still fail.
He lifted infinity, not a universe and half of infinity is still infinity. Don't think too hard kid, it might be injurious to your health.
Originally posted by abhilegend
You remind me of a child who doesn't gets what he wants and then starts throwing tantrums. Its ok kid.Still fail.
He lifted infinity, not a universe and half of infinity is still infinity. Don't think too hard kid, it might be injurious to your health.
trust me, i won't think hard at all about it. what's infinity?
Originally posted by abhilegend
facepalm
LOL yea I know, I can be difficult to deal with.
But understand that I am a Superman fan as well but i am not limiting myself to a biased opinion of who is the strongest. I go by the books.
In an earthy contest, Superman would be one of the top dogs but in a cosmic test of strength....he would fall WAY SHORT. Superman and infinity are not the same my friend. let alone cosmic!!!!
Originally posted by SMIFF-N-WESSON
LOL i didnt complain at all let alone ask you to take action, i merley made a statement but thats beside the fact .let the man speak with his mind.
Okay...
Originally posted by jedi90
Funny, he can use whatever version of superman he chooses but you have a problem with me using 52 supes.
He can use the Superman that this thread was designed for, which is pre-Flashpoint Superman.
You CAN argue New 52 Superman if you like; you just don't get to tell others that they have to do the same.
Originally posted by SMIFF-N-WESSON
Matter of fact, lets throw all in.PR, you are a Superman fan yes?
Please explain how Superman can compete with strength x anger (no limitations)?
Because Superman's feats, for the most part, rival Hulks. Sure, Hulk can get potentially stronger, but I'm not going to apply a no-limits fallacy to him and then not to do it to someone like Superman, who is pretty much as strong as a story needs him to be.
Originally posted by abhilegend
You remind me of a child who doesn't gets what he wants and then starts throwing tantrums. Its ok kid.Still fail.
He lifted infinity, not a universe and half of infinity is still infinity. Don't think too hard kid, it might be injurious to your health.
1/2 infinity?!!!! LOL
Originally posted by -Pr-
prove that flight boosts his strength. 😬
I wish to be educated. I have never seen anyone actually present any information from the comics, like an actual issue number or a scan or something that even remotely contradicts the counter information set forth here.
Flight aids Superman's strength. Here is the URL version of links that prove that, soon I will follow with click-able links. I challenge someone to post actual scans that Superman's flight does not aid his strength in this way even up to 2012. Prove me wrong with actual information from the COMICS, please.
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14040614
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14040634
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14040615
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14040630
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Source: Adventures of Superman #436, Volume 1
Writers: John Byrne & Jerry Ordway
Penciller: Jerry Ordway
Date: January 1988
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http://dc.wikia.com/wiki/Adventures_of_Superman_Vol_1_436
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14041378
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14041381
Source: BienSalsa
Originally posted by -Pr-
prove that flight boosts his strength. 😬
I wish to be educated. I have never seen anyone actually present any information from the comics, like an actual issue number or a scan or something that even remotely contradicts the counter information set forth here.
Flight aids Superman's strength. Here is the click-able link version of that argument. I challenge someone to post actual scans that Superman's flight does not aid his strength in this way even up to 2012. Prove me wrong with actual information from the COMICS, please.
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14040614
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14040634
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14040615
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14040630
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Source: Adventures of Superman #436, Volume 1
Writers: John Byrne & Jerry Ordway
Penciller: Jerry Ordway
Date: January 1988
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http://dc.wikia.com/wiki/Adventures_of_Superman_Vol_1_436
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14041378
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14041381
Source: BienSalsa
Originally posted by bluewaterrider
I wish to be educated. I have never seen anyone actually present any information from the comics, like an actual issue number or a scan or something that even remotely contradicts the counter information set forth here.Flight aids Superman's strength. Here is the URL version of links that prove that, soon I will follow with click-able links. I challenge someone to post actual scans that Superman's flight does not aid his strength in this way even up to 2012. Prove me wrong with actual information from the COMICS, please.
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14040614
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14040634
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14040615
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14040630----------------------------------------------------------------------
Source: Adventures of Superman #436, Volume 1
Writers: John Byrne & Jerry Ordway
Penciller: Jerry Ordway
Date: January 1988
----------------------------------------------------------------------http://dc.wikia.com/wiki/Adventures_of_Superman_Vol_1_436
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14041378
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14041381
Source: BienSalsa
It's actually been stated before. In numerous threads.
But okay: Superman's powers worked differently under Byrne than they did anyone else. The events of the Byrne days might have been canon, but the way Superman uses his powers changed dramatically once Byrne left and Jurgens came on board.
It's shaky at best, and certainly not proof of his flight being the same afterwards, seeing as it was never mentioned again.
Originally posted by -Pr-
Okay...He can use the Superman that this thread was designed for, which is pre-Flashpoint Superman.
You CAN argue New 52 Superman if you like; you just don't get to tell others that they have to do the same.
Because Superman's feats, for the most part, rival Hulks. Sure, Hulk can get potentially stronger, but I'm not going to apply a no-limits fallacy to him and then not to do it to someone like Superman, who is pretty much as strong as a story needs him to be.
CMON MAN!! , its not an application its whats in the books but for the sake of debate Sir lets talk abotut it.
Supermans feats are unquestionably unmatched, he is the example of a true hero no doubt. Superman answered the call on every level he was challenged HOWEVER simply saying that his strenght is higher than the Hulk leaves me incredulous.
Originally posted by SMIFF-N-WESSON
1/2 infinity?!!!! LOL
Originally posted by bluewaterrider
I wish to be educated. I have never seen anyone actually present any information from the comics, like an actual issue number or a scan or something that even remotely contradicts the counter information set forth here.Flight aids Superman's strength. Here is the URL version of links that prove that, soon I will follow with click-able links. I challenge someone to post actual scans that Superman's flight does not aid his strength in this way even up to 2012. Prove me wrong with actual information from the COMICS, please.
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14040614
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14040634
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14040615
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14040630----------------------------------------------------------------------
Source: Adventures of Superman #436, Volume 1
Writers: John Byrne & Jerry Ordway
Penciller: Jerry Ordway
Date: January 1988
----------------------------------------------------------------------http://dc.wikia.com/wiki/Adventures_of_Superman_Vol_1_436
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14041378
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14041381
Source: BienSalsa
Originally posted by -Pr-
Okay...
He can use the Superman that this thread was designed for, which is pre-Flashpoint Superman.You CAN argue New 52 Superman if you like; you just don't get to tell others that they have to do the same.
Really? Funny, cause that's not what you said earlier, but now i'm glad we agree.
Originally posted by -Pr-
This isn't the vs forum. It's pre-reboot Superman in a contest of strength with Hulk.You don't have to agree, but that's what the thread is.
Originally posted by jedi90
Really? Funny, cause that's not what you said earlier, but now i'm glad we agree.
I know it's not what I said earlier. I changed my mind to try to be nice.
Originally posted by SMIFF-N-WESSON
CMON MAN!! , its not an application its whats in the books but for the sake of debate Sir lets talk abotut it.Supermans feats are unquestionably unmatched, he is the example of a true hero no doubt. Superman answered the call on every level he was challenged HOWEVER simply saying that his strenght is higher than the Hulk leaves me incredulous.
I just think he's stronger, or was, before WBH came along. I don't see what's so illogical about that.