Wolverine no Claws/adbone vs batman no belt

Started by King Burger31 pages

Wolverine wins this easily (atleast if the writers were honest),
principally for the reasons Sentry touched upon.

Since Captain America was brought up, let us compare the three:

Training:

C.A.-Trained by US military, but not modern US military, but the
WWII one (no offence to any WWII veterans' grandchildren
here, but the average american soldier in WWII was nowhere
near as well trained as his german, british, japanese, or even
russian counterpart). With later added training with Avengers.

B-Trained himself across Asia in various martial arts forms. Later
training with JL (sort of).

W-Trained by Canadian govt., military, CIA, Weapon X program.
Pesonal tarining across Asia. More training with X-Men.
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Purpose:

C.A.-Trained to fight Germans in WWII.

B-Trained himself to fight criminals.

W-Trained initially for war, later (under Weapon X) to fight
super-villians.

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Experience:

C.A.-Fighting in WWII. Frozen for decades years. Fighting super-villains
with Avengers. Few decades doing so.

B-Mostly fighting street crime and some super-villains, alone (example
Killer croc), or with JL. Few decades doing so.

W-Mostly fighting super-villains, with plenty of fights against ninjas,
samurais, street thugs, etc... Many, MANY decades doing so.

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Bottom line, of the three Wolverine is by far the best fighter. He has
received more training than either of the two, has lived alot more
than the two (I believe more than the two combined), during which
time he's been in a hell of alot more fights than either (or both) of
them, both against common street thugs, and super-villains of many
levels.

Also, Batman rarely physically attacks super-villains (or anyone
stronger than he is), instead using his skill to dodge blows while
deploying various gadgets to win.

Wolverine however, because of his adamantium, healing factor, and
more aggressive nature, pounces on anyone in his way, regardless of
strength (such as the Hulk). This gives Wolverine a further edge, both
in experience, and in psychology.

"Jamaican are you saying Bruce can bench press 1000lb lol his not human than is he.

The stongest human will bench press 400lb no more than that not lift bench press.

no way batman can bench press 1000lb."

Are you serious? You really believe that it's impossible for a human to bench press more than 400lbs, you are really stupid, or just totally naive. (Unless you arent typing properly and getting your point across correctly.) I know High School students that do more than that...
Here are a bunch of sites that prove that it IS possible to bench press more that 400lbs....

http://www.navycompass.com/sports/sportsview.asp?c=122897
That guy lifted - 540 bench press

http://www.heavysports.com/emag/curtdennis/recordbreakers.html
that guy squated over a 1000, and benched 7hundred something

AND the guiness record for "the youngest weightlifting record" is 285kg, from a 16 year old...

Now if a human can do it, I'm pretty sure someone in the comic book world, who is supposed to be at PEAK human level, better than everyone else, exceptional to everyone, can do it....

As I've said before, other than the healing factor, wolvie doesnt stand a chance

- also - Bruce is supposed to be EQUAL with C.America, and he CAN press 1000lbs...

"Bottom line, of the three Wolverine is by far the best fighter. He has
received more training than either of the two, has lived alot more
than the two (I believe more than the two combined), during which
time he's been in a hell of alot more fights than either (or both) of
them, both against common street thugs, and super-villains of many
levels."

So are you saying that Logan could best Cap. America in a fight as well?!? Thats pretty funny.....

Just because someone receives more training, or has been doing something longer than another person, doesnt necessarily mean he'll end up the victor. Some people are just simply more talented.
And I doubt that Logan puts all that training to use. Doesn't he have a major memory recollection issue? Imagine if Captain America or Batman had gotten all that training?

I dont even know how strong Batman is, im not sure if dc said how much he could bench

Originally posted by Jamaican
Bruce does have the brains in this battle though,,,can't take everything away from him,,,,he's DA MAN!"

Wolverine is a pretty smart fighter himself too. With much more experience than Batman will ever have. And way more ruthless too.
And also, Wolverine can press, what, 800lbs? Whereas Bruce is on the same level as Captain America, who can press 1000lbs (press, w/e the term you use is).

Says who that Batman can press 1000 lbs ? And even if he can, so what ?
And even if they were on the same strength level, which wolvie is not, put that together with his speed

Again, why is Batman faster than Wolverine. I think Wolverine will able to react faster than Batman, thanks to his experience, his mutated body and his heightened senses.
The only factor in this debate that leans towards wolverine is his healing factor...

You forget his adamantium skeleton and the insane amount of pain he can take. Sabretooth broke his hand once when trying to punch Wolverine. Give me one good reason why this can't happen to Batman ?

I think i said no skeleton. Not sure check the first post i made

Yes you did, my mistake.

Wolverine still wins though 😉. He can take everything Batman can give to him and will even ask for more. But Batman can NOT take the damage Wolverine can.

Batman could dodge wolverines damage and use his 50000 martail arts(hell pick the sickest one) then beat up wolverine, and once hes knocked out for even a couple seconds then he loses the match to the bat, or wolverine just hands batman his ass.

Something else : I like a fair fight, but this is not a fair fight. Wolverine can't use his famous razor sharp claws and doesn't have his nigh unbreakable skeleton, but Batman only leaves his freaking belt at home ?

Like there actually was something in that belt that could seriously hurt Wolverine. Not an honest fight imo.

"You forget his adamantium skeleton and the insane amount of pain he can take. Sabretooth broke his hand once when trying to punch Wolverine. Give me one good reason why this can't happen to Batman ?"

Well if we are giving him the skeleton that of course it could happen to him aswell. but i was under the impression that he didnt have it, pretty sure thats what they said...

Well I have a question, are we going by the fighting synopsis that was used in Marvel vs. DC, in the sense that whoever just bests the other first is the victor? Or are we fighting 'to the death'? B/c if we are fighting to the death then of course Logans healing factor will play an huge contributor to him winning. But if its just a fight to see who's better, to see who bests the other person first, I'm sure Bruce will take him...

Wolverine has wrestled with a man under water got the upper hand and thrown him with enough force to crack the concrete side of the pool... and he was under water. He is much stronger then Batman and crossovers that show Batman and Cap as equals have no weight at all since they aren't cannon; if they were then Wolverine is married to Witchblade.

Wolverine is much more skilled fighter then Batman or Captain America, the thing is he doesn't remember a great deal of his training and it comes to him instictively during battle (which is why telepaths couldn't predict his moves back in the day... before new writers came along and didn't do their homework) so he can't all his skill when ever he wants.

How does knowing you are going to heal from most attacks and running headstrong in to battle make you cocky? Is Superman cocky because he lets bullets bounce of him instead of dodging him?

Originally posted by who?-kid
Something else : I like a fair fight, but this is not a fair fight. Wolverine can't use his famous razor sharp claws and doesn't have his nigh unbreakable skeleton, but Batman only leaves his freaking belt at home ?

Like there actually was something in that belt that could seriously hurt Wolverine. Not an honest fight imo.

It is a fair fight because wolverine wasnt born with his adamatuim skeleton or his claws .

Batman wasnt born with his belt full of gadgets so he leaves that to

"How does knowing you are going to heal from most attacks and running headstrong in to battle make you cocky? Is Superman cocky because he lets bullets bounce of him instead of dodging him?"

It would if every single bullet was different, but he knows what the bullets are as they're coming towards him. Logan doesnt know about Batman in this case, but I'm sure he'd still be cocky.

"Like there actually was something in that belt that could seriously hurt Wolverine. Not an honest fight imo."

I'm sure that theres something in his belt, like lets say, some sort of gas, or something that could at least disable logan for a little, prob. knock him out before his healing factor destroys it.

Wouldn't count on that DP shot Wolverine with a tranq dart that could drop a T-Rex with a single dart... Wolverine went down but not instantly. Gas and tranqs aren't that effective on Logan.

Wolverine doesn't need to know what Batman will do because he knows he would get hurt by anything Batman is capable of... hardly cocky IMO.

And Wolverine was born with his claws Max Spidey

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
And Wolverine was born with his claws Max Spidey

True. Bone claws, not as strong or sharp as his adamantium claws, but certainly sharp enough to slice Batman.

Yes but bone claw Wolverine cranks up his jobber arua to the max! Even Thanos' durability jobs to bone claw Wolverine.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Yes but bone claw Wolverine cranks up his jobber arua to the max! Even Thanos' durability jobs to bone claw Wolverine.

Wow. Now you think Wolverine's bone claws will "job" Thanos?
Thanos can take shots from Galactus without getting KO'd....
and you think Logan will "job" him?

I said Thanos jobs to bone claw Wolverine. Seriously, two sentences man and you got confused. I guess that answer my question on wither or not you read comics or just look at the pretty pictures.

define "jobs."

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Seriously, two sentences man and you got confused. I guess that answer my question on wither or not you read comics or just look at the pretty pictures.

this coming from a BOY who thinks his Wolverine can beat up GODZILLA.
grow up and read a book, son.