don't know...I'll let Batman figure that one out...he's been caught without his belt and held up pretty good before..why not in this fight..cuz it against the midget Xman with the "healing power" forgive if I don't believe Logan could take him please please please please please won't you....I implore your forgiveness.
"here's the thing.
wolverine CAN afford to be the aggresor.
bruce can't.
wolverine gets punched and bleeds it heals instantly.
the same can no be said for batman"
Thats true, very true. But its not like bruce isnt patient enough to counterpunch. And how many times is the aggressor the one to fall flat first on his face...Many A Time....
"Ey mon..dis fight belong ta da Batman!"
Yeh Man, you know it...
"how?
without his belt fighting a equal,possibly superior fighter who has super human senses and a healing factor?"
I still dont understand why you are so delusional to the fact that he is "possibly superior fighter". HE IS NOT, AND NEVER WILL BE. Thats like trying to compare Norris to Lee, Norris will beat the crap out of alot of people, and he CAN fight (in fact he was taught by Lee himself ive heard), but you can NEVER put them in the same boat. This same theory applies.....
Jamaican you are aware that Wolverine a high end street level hero (low mid level) while Dare Devil isn't? Wolverine is physical superior to Dare Devil in every aspect including fighting skill.
Also Wolverine is fallen samurai not a failed samurai he disgraced him self and lost his honor it has nothing to do with lack of skill.
"Jamaican you are aware that Wolverine a high end street level hero (low mid level) while Dare Devil isn't? Wolverine is physical superior to Dare Devil in every aspect including fighting skill."
Wow. Wow. That's just amazing. I congratulate you. You've made my day, i dont know the last time i laughed this hard. PLEASEEEE are you serious about Logan being superior to DD...no no, you're joking right. Damn thats really funny. Logan is no where near DD in fighting skill, NO WHERE. DD dropped Logan with one Chop, a simple karate chop. Daredevil also beat up Sabertooth, who Logan has problems with.
"You do know that Bruce Lee lost to Chuck Norris Jamaican?"
No i wasnt aware. Thanks for the Info.
Look, point is, Logan will never be on DD's level, Logan will never be on Bruce's level. Imagine for just a second, what the possibilities would be if either of them had Logans abilities...Kinda scary...
An unaware Wolverine was brought down by down by DD's throat chop in a Garth Ennis issue of Punisher (I'm sure I dont need to explain what that means. Also DD never beat Sabretooth he was pretty even with him in that issue. Sabretooth could have killed DD when he was trapped on the rumble but he didn't. Also DD got an unoffical strength bost for that issue so he could compeat.
Number one, as Wolverine has said many times, "I'm the best there is at what I do. And what I do ain't pretty, bub."
That being said, Wolverine, without his adamantium skeleton looses to Batman? Why's that?
Because Wolverine is the best there is at what he does in the Marvel U. Batman competes in the DCU, and let's face it, to be an ordinary human being and survive in the DCU is pretty impressive. The DCU has all the power houses, the heroes and villians in it are far stronger, on average, than those in the Marvel U. Therefore, Bats has to be a whole lot better skill wise to hold his own.
Also this is non-unbreakable skeleton Wolverine, and as someone pointed out, it takes Wolverine a few hours or a couple of days to heal broken bones. Of his normal skeleton the only part that is more durable are his bone claws, every other bone in Wolverine's body, without adamantium is just as strong as the bones in any other healthy person. In this case Batman can and will break Wolverine's bones, putting him out of the fight for a few hours or a few days, that means Wolverine is helpess while Batman is fine. Because he could block and avoid Wolverine's without taking fatal wounds for long enough to break Wolvie's bones. That's just the way that goes down.
Now, if we're talking adamantium skeleton Wolverine, he wins, because then Batman will have a hell of a hard time inflicting damage on Wolverine that will keep him out of the fight more than a few minutes. Even with his gagdets. That's just the way of things.
Wait a minute.
If it is accepted that Wolverine lived alot longer than Batman, learned
more martial arts and fighting techniques than Batman, and faught
a lot more opponents (both normal and Super-powered) than Batman
during their life-times, then how in God all Mighty's name can Batman
be a superior fighter than Wolverine?
Let me repeat: Bruce Wayne learned martial arts to fight criminals,
Logan was trained to fight super-villains. What's the comparison?
Let me also again say: How often to do you Batman engage in
hand-to-hand fights against near-equal/equal/superior fighters?
Compare that to how often Wolverine has fought people like
Sabertooth or Silver Samurai.
Besides, Batman was never that tough or smart when he first
appeared. He was just a really intelligent, well-trained detective.
Logan however, has always been tough. He's always been able
to go up against super-villains (like the Hulk), unlike Batman whose
intelligence and utility-belt had to be amplified greatly to have him
keep up with the likes of Superman and the JL.
Why is this even debated? Logan kicks billionaire's butt, is all.
Originally posted by Corlock Striker
Because Wolverine is the best there is at what he does in the Marvel U. Batman competes in the DCU, and let's face it, to be an ordinary human being and survive in the DCU is pretty impressive. The DCU has all the power houses, the heroes and villians in it are far stronger, on average, than those in the Marvel U. Therefore, Bats has to be a whole lot better skill wise to hold his own.
Also this is non-unbreakable skeleton Wolverine, and as someone pointed out, it takes Wolverine a few hours or a couple of days to heal broken bones.
Of his normal skeleton the only part that is more durable are his bone claws, every other bone in Wolverine's body, without adamantium is just as strong as the bones in any other healthy person. In this case Batman can and will break Wolverine's bones, putting him out of the fight for a few hours or a few days, that means Wolverine is helpess while Batman is fine.
Because he could block and avoid Wolverine's without taking fatal wounds for long enough to break Wolvie's bones. That's just the way that goes down.
Wolverine is as good as fighter as Batman. He was fighting for his life before Batmans' grandfather even was born, and was highly trained in several martial arts (amongst other things !). Not only that, but he's a cunning fighter when he has to be, and doesn't hold back either.
Last but not least, he can take much more pain than Batman ever can dream of.