Wolverine no Claws/adbone vs batman no belt

Started by Logan 8731 pages

How about no.

People forget that marvel has him as a seven in fighting ability.

http://www.marvel.com/universe/index.htm

Which is a "master of all forms of combat". . .

Wolverine and Spiderman has the same number 4 in something(in the range)

Originally posted by Logan 87
Wolverine and Spiderman has the same number 4 in something(in the range)
Strength.

4. Superhuman- 800-25 ton range

That's right, Wolverine has superhuman strength. . .

Originally posted by Creshosk
People forget that marvel has him as a seven in fighting ability.

http://www.marvel.com/universe/index.htm

Which is a "master of all forms of combat". . .

Which he doesn't use...

Originally posted by Creshosk
Strength.

4. Superhuman- 800-25 ton range

That's right, Wolverine has superhuman strength. . .

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No, wolverine doesn't have superhuman strength, its enhanced but peak, did you not just say that scale was screwed?

Captain America is stronger, but in the peak human scale...

Jesus

Originally posted by Logan 87
Wolverine and Spiderman has the same number 4 in something(in the range)

So you think they LIFT the same now?

Batman would win I believe.
It says Wolverine is a master tactician and one of the best martial artists ever, but has ever shown either of these characterstics? Batman shows them on every page.

I don't see how he can do any real good damage to wolverine...

Various ways. . . . he could utilize the opponents speed and strength against them. I also recall a Punisher crossover, and he outclassed Wolvie completely, and was using some sorta pressure points on him. Batman could do this as well, and to much more effect.

Wolverine can heal, but he can still feel pain.
WIthout the adamantium it would be much easier to strike vitals as well.

Oh, I thought this was the one where he had no claws, with his skeleton.
Yea batman has a shot...

Originally posted by Juntai
Batman would win I believe.
It says Wolverine is a master tactician and one of the best martial artists ever, but has ever shown either of these characterstics? Batman shows them on every page.

Originally posted by Tron
Bloodlust

It is assumed that each contestant will fight to his/her best ability, but still within the character's personality, unless specified otherwise. That means they will use any powers at their disposal. For example, even though The Flash doesn't clock each of his own opponents in the first picosecond in his own comic, it is assumed that is a viable tactic on this board since it is a proven fact that he possesses that level of speed.

His personality is to not do so, he just doesn't apply them in fights, its also why flash comics last longer than three panels.

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
So you think they LIFT the same now?

Ok you can't read. I said Marvel put them in the same range. THEY PUT THEM IN THE SAME RANGE, meaning they put them in the same range, witch translate, into they put them in the same range, to sum it up I didnt say I think they lift the same, I said they put them in the same range...did I mention they put them in the same range.

Does Wolverine's strength come from his skeleton or did the scientists and exercise give him strength?

The problem is, the "range" you speak of is huge, and therefore misleading. Spiderman lifts roughly 25 times what Wolverine does. They're not even comparable.

Both the Thing and Hulk are in the class 100 range, but Hulk is much much stronger than Thing. Just looking at stats, You could say both are about the same, but that's simply not true.

And sorry, but I find it outright hilarious that Creshosk just brought up a statistic after arguing against a couple people that stats should basically be ignored because most all rankings are wrong in Wolverine vs. Spiderman...

Also, bloodlust basically says that characters don't hold back at all. Wolverine almost never uses fancy martial arts techniques. He's a good fighter within his own style, but Batman is damn hard to beat in terms of proficiency.

That said, Wolverine still wins, on the healing factor. Bruce wins a sparring match, Logan gets the knockout.

Originally posted by Dizzle
And sorry, but I find it outright hilarious that Creshosk just brought up a statistic after arguing against a couple people that stats should basically be ignored because most all rankings are wrong in Wolverine vs. Spiderman...
These stats don't have the misleading ones in them.

http://www.marvel.com/universe/index.htm

No mention of webbing strength nor Doc Ock's speed.

Edit: Oh wait. . damnit. . . they still have them listed as. . . hmm . . .

Originally posted by Dark Thor
Does Wolverine's strength come from his skeleton or did the scientists and exercise give him strength?
Both, the excercise puts him up at peak human. And then the skeleton pushes him just a little higher.

He is stronger than a marvel peak human.

Look at the difference between Captain America and Wolverine.

If I remember correctly from my X-Men comics, a Wolverine without his adamantium skeleton is in a way even more dangerous than a "normal" Wolverine.

Xavier said it himself, and he knows what he's talking about: Logan is without his adamantium skeleton an even more ferocious fighter, and heals even faster ! Much faster that is !

Batman is in big trouble. Wolverine will just keep coming and coming.