Gays in the church

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Originally posted by The Omega
(Bardock> I'm assuming you're looking forward to April. Have you seen the trailer? http://hitchhikers.movies.go.com/main.html )

Oh I sure do...and yes I did.....I am all ready for towel day too.

I hope its gonna be good, I loved the show,.

Originally posted by The Omega
"You don't wanna see me kiss my boyfriend...and I don't want to see you praying in public. "

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People have always prayed in public. They talked with reverence when they talked about God. But men didn't kiss in public, nor women.

It's only been since the 60"s that people have aggressively changed.

No you can't pray in public and a man can kiss a man. It's amazing what can happen in 40 years. What will the next 40 hold for us open minded people.

Debbiejo> Well, isn't it strange that it is usually those praying in public who object to gays kissing in public?

You missed the point... entirely...
What a shame.

Originally posted by Kosta
Isnt that what I just said? 😬

Yea you did say that!I was not talking to you but that is ok.JM 💃

Hell, I don't want to see straight people kiss in public, I don't want to see gay people kiss in public, AND I don't want to see people pray in public. Everyone needs to get a room.

Originally posted by BackFire
Everyone needs to get a room.

That struck me as terribly witty. Next time I see someone praying in public, I'm going to tell them to get a room. That's great!

I've been doing that for years.

After all, Pray is basically having sex with god, so that really shouldn't be done in public.

😆

Well, to be frank… anyone who needs to publicly display something which is private must have some serious doubts or attention-problems.

Yes ma'am.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
"Well the Law forbids murder, but people do it anyway, so lets all go kill someone."

Yes but the law is something imposed on us all. Christianity and the bible are not, they are followed by those believed it. Laws are broken but Christianity is nothing more than a religion. Something people believe.

You said "as long as no one crams their beliefs down my throat" which is exactly what you are doing. Just because it says something in the bible, doesn't mean I have to go by it. I personally believe that if you're willing to be told how to live by a man no more blessed than you are, wearing a funny costume, then being told the same thing by a gay man isn't gonna be any different. As long as he's telling you what you go there to hear why is it any different? Because he's showing you that being gay isn't actually a sin like your religious peers would have you believe?

-AC

Actually Im not shoving my beliefs down any ones throats more than anyone else here is. I gave a reason for my opinion, and peopoe started questioning different aspects of it, so I gave reasons for those too. Never did I sayy "Youre wrong, I'm right." or anything along those lines.

Originally posted by BackFire
Hell, I don't want to see straight people kiss in public, I don't want to see gay people kiss in public, AND I don't want to see people pray in public. Everyone needs to get a room.

(Clears throat)does that mean you too?JM 😆

I have a room.

Kosta> You have to realise that religious people QUITE often have a tendency to say “I am right, you are wrong – cuz God is on MY side.”

BF>You do? So what’re you gonna do? Pray or kiss a guy? 😄

I think I'll do both at the same time, just to piss off the christians. 😛

Originally posted by BackFire
I have a room.

😏You mean you did have a room!jm

BF> hysterical

Of course you would...

Originally posted by The Omega
Kosta> You have to realise that religious people QUITE often have a tendency to say “I am right, you are wrong – cuz God is on MY side.”

BF>You do? So what’re you gonna do? Pray or kiss a guy? 😄

I'm religious, and I honestly dont mean to come across in thhat "I'm right youre wrong" fassion.

You aslo said that its strange how its the people that pray in public that dissaprove of gays kissing in public. I dont think thats sstrange at all.

Kosta> "Strange" in the context I used was sarcastic.
You kinda just stressed my point there...

Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
Sounds to me like you're not a Christian at all. Are you saying that you are a Christian because your parents make you go to church on Sunday? Lots of people go to church and believe that makes them good Christians. Look how much time Catholic priests spend in church. Does that mean they're still good catholics when they have their hands up an alter boys robes? Of course not. If you're not a fan of the Christian religion(in any of it's denominations) then don't call yourself one.

I'm not pointing this at you, but I think you're coming from a mindset that is reflective of a huge problem in this country. If you don't subscribe to a belief system, then don't identify yourself as a member of said system. I think a lot of people in America think of themselves as Christians simply because they have been raised in a world where it's shoved down their throats. Not to mention there is a specific part of the constitution of this country that not only guarentees your right not to have religion forced on you, but also that there is a seperation of church and state. Too many people view this as a theoretical part of the guaranteed rights of every citizen of this country. And for some reason, the people who view this a theoretical are running the country these days.

I'd never, ever go to church!

Your right, I guess I'm not a christian, and I'm proud of it!

What I dont understand is WHY WHY WHY do gay peoplee want to be priests? WHY do they argue with a religion thats thousands of years oldd, and WHY do they argue with stubborn old priests that will NEVER accept gays in the church even if they are made to at gun point? WHY be an advocate of something that essentially completely dissaproves of whhat you stand for? If gay people dont care what the church believes or what other people thinkm which is something Im hearing a lot of, thhen WHY do they strive to gain influece in the church? If they are so "I can be gay, I dont care what anyone thinks." then why dont they just be happy with what theyve gained in the last 40 years? Theyre reguarded as valued memmbers of society now, as anyone eelse is. People are gonna say "They want acceptance" Well they already have it. People are gonna say "No they dont, look at the number of gay bashings" Well I say look at the number of other minority bashings annd compare. Its just gay bashiungs are more out there for the world to see as faras media coverage goes.

Am I making sense?