Girl Banned From Year Book

Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
Which actually raises another question in my mind. What if they decided that all the guys with long hair couldn't be allowed to appear in the year book for the same reasons?

It really boils down to....is it easier to exclude one...or to include everyone?

And by your same logic...girls with short hair wouldn't be allowed to be in the year book for the exact same reasons.

What a person's body (and it's parts) looks like and what a person wears should be 2 entirely different subjects.

"Iran...I Walked...I Jihad"...this is good, just to let you know.

My point is that there already is a double standard. Women can't wear tuxedos and men can have long hair. It's all about traditional values. And values aren't set in stone. They are allowed to evolve. If you choose to follow the strict values of the 1930's, 40's, or 50's that your choice. But not everyone can make that choice for everyone else.

And like I said before, if this was a denominational school, like the Catholic school I went to, then the principle has the right to make that descision. However, if this is a public school, then that rights goes away.

Some women don't like to wear dresses. So what? Women wear suits all the time, who cares if she wears a tux? If she was hetrosexual and wore a tux would it make a difference?

If this is the school's only way to react to this situation (if it can be considered a situation at all) I question the judgement and training of those in charge.

Originally posted by Linkalicious
How many other girls got excluded from the year book for wearing a tuxedo?

None. She's the exception....that's called being "different."

Why did she want to wear a tuxedo of all things? Why not just wear a dress like the rest of her entire graduating class?

I understand the point you are trying to make, but what happens when a male wears a dress...better yet....a strapless dress to take those pictures? Same ruling...only no big fuss about it. The reason why the principal dis-allowed the tux was because he would be setting a double standard against the males.

a male wearing a strapless dress should be allowed aswell IMO

Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
"Iran...I Walked...I Jihad"...this is good, just to let you know.

I thought it was funny....though I feel your remark is ripe with sacasm. 🙁

My point is that there already is a double standard. Women can't wear tuxedos and men can have long hair. It's all about traditional values. And values aren't set in stone. They are allowed to evolve. If you choose to follow the strict values of the 1930's, 40's, or 50's that your choice. But not everyone can make that choice for everyone else.

and my point is...it's not a double standard. Girls are allowed to wear their hair short, and guys are allowed to wear their hair long. You're comparing apples to oranges here. If the guy can't wear a dress, a girl can't wear a tux. If a girl can have short hair, a guy can have long hair. There's no relationship between hair and clothing.

And like I said before, if this was a denominational school, like the Catholic school I went to, then the principle has the right to make that descision. However, if this is a public school, then that rights goes away.

Why does that right go away? You didn't really explain why aside from pointing out the different school types.

What's the purpose of a Principle if he isn't given the power to exercise his authority just like in a Catholic School.

A guxy can wear a dress anyday, I don'T care.

The thing is that the Catholic Schools are private institutions that have certain rights they got from the Parents of the Kid that goes there, a public school dioesn't

Originally posted by Bardock42
A guxy can wear a dress anyday, I don'T care.

The thing is that the Catholic Schools are private institutions that have certain rights they got from the Parents of the Kid that goes there, a public school dioesn't

But a publich school does have the authority to create and enforce a dress code.

And although I don't personally have any problem with allowing a female to wear a tux or business style suit....it was deemed a problem by the person responsible for enforcing that dress code.

Sure, a guy can wear a dress anyday...by your standards. But what about the standards of society?

If you're a guy and you go for a job interview and wear a dress....you aren't getting the job. Do I have a decent explanation? No...it's just the way the world is...

What's the term crossdresser mean? and why is it used as a negative remark?

No it wasn't it was decided afterwards to remove her picture....which is wrong, If it was stated before...well I could understand it but it doesn'T say that, much more it says there was no dress code I think.

Well is that the society that doesn'T accept gays nowadays and didn't accept blacks a few years back....well then screw society she doesn't hurt someone so freedom for her and everyone else.

Originally posted by Linkalicious
If you're a guy and you go for a job interview and wear a dress....you aren't getting the job. Do I have a decent explanation? No...it's just the way the world is...

LMAO!

Interviewer: "Sorry, sir, but we're not going to offer you the job of Marketing Executive."
Candidate: "Why?"
Interviewer: "Well, for starters, you're wearing a polka-dotted dress to a job interview."
Candidate: "So? You insensitive, ignorant, prick! I'm heading to the Newspaper right now to show them how terrible of a company your corporation is."
Interviewer: "That's nice. Now get the f*** out of my office."

I can't sit here and defend the principle's decision forever....what he did was wrong and that girl should atleast be given the opportunity to have a "make up" picture taken since they allowed her to have her picture taken in the first place.

And I don't want to defend the rights/wrongs of men wearing women's clothing and vice versa.

Men and women's clothing are sized differently for a reason....there's no legitament reason why one would wear the other's style of clothing except for that individual's need to be seen as "different."

Example Situation:
The word shit is not censored on KMC. If I used the word "shit" after every single sentence I typed what do you think would be the ideal course of action by the mods?

a.) tell me to stop using the word
b.) going in and recoding the site to censor the word "shit"

There's a quick fast way to get results and there's a long hard way. Which one is easiest?

Originally posted by Linkalicious

I thought it was funny....though I feel your remark is ripe with sacasm. 🙁

and my point is...it's not a double standard. Girls are allowed to wear their hair short, and guys are allowed to wear their hair long. You're comparing apples to oranges here. If the guy can't wear a dress, a girl can't wear a tux. If a girl can have short hair, a guy can have long hair. There's no relationship between hair and clothing.

Why does that right go away? You didn't really explain why aside from pointing out the different school types.

What's the purpose of a Principle if he isn't given the power to exercise his authority just like in a Catholic School. [/B]

No, my remark wasn't sarcasm. I really liked it. When I saw it I laughed out loud. It's all cool Link. I'm not going to dislike you because we don't agree on this point. I'm always going to respect your point of view...as long as you don't start tossing out insults. As long as we can have a civil discussion where you are attempting to respect another point of view, then we'll get along.

And Badrock has made my point for me. A cotholic school can exercise and impose a specific set of values because they exist to promote those values. A public school doesn't, or shouldn't, operate under those pretense. The student that goes to a public school doesn't go there to have a specific set of values impossed on him/her. When the same can not be said by the Catholic school student.

The issue is not sexuality but gender non-conformity. Who cares if a girl wears a tuxedo or if a boy wears a dress? It is only clothes!

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
The issue is not sexuality but gender non-conformity. Who cares if a girl wears a tuxedo or if a boy wears a dress? It is only clothes!

Imo, people can wear whatever they want, unless there' s a dress code to the occasion.

Originally posted by Storm
Imo, people can wear whatever they want, unless there' s a dress code to the occasion.

Almost exactly my point.

Here here.

Exist on the basis of your own truth..then there is an argument to be told

Originally posted by Storm
Imo, people can wear whatever they want, unless there' s a dress code to the occasion.

Not in certain circumstances... Sometimes even dress code is not mentioned, but it is understandable...

I can't really give a really good example at the moment....

Not in certain circumstances... Sometimes even dress code is not mentioned, but it is understandable...
I can't really give a really good example at the moment....

that is F**KED UP!! I HATE THEM!!!