storm VS ironman

Traditionally Storm subconsciously psionically altered atmosphere variables (temperature, pressure, humidity), which is what I always assumed was meant by meteorological patterns, in order to consciously elicit meteorological phenomena. The explanation of her lightning is that she can excite electrons in atmospheric molecules.

Storm still shouldn't have sufficient control over electromagnetic force to create an electromagnetic pulse instantaneously whereas someone like Magneto would. She still shouldn't have sufficient control over even electrical fields to consciously shut down a person's cardiovascular and nervous systems from afar. Has she constantly and consistently done either of these things? Or are these more singular events.

she has done an emp on multiple occasions, and most recently she has done an emp as soon as wolverine told her to.

wolvie😖torm, hit her with an e.m.p

and right at that moment storm does it.

also she has shifted electric fields on multiple occasions when dealing with sentinals, and she has done it to people. idk how she can do these things, but I guess it has to do with her control over lightning and electricity

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Traditionally Storm subconsciously psionically altered atmosphere variables (temperature, pressure, humidity), which is what I always assumed was meant by meteorological patterns, in order to consciously elicit meteorological phenomena. The explanation of her lightning is that she can excite electrons in atmospheric molecules.

Storm still shouldn't have sufficient control over electromagnetic force to create an electro[b]magnetic pulse instantaneously whereas someone like Magneto would. She still shouldn't have sufficient control over even electrical fields to consciously shut down a person's cardiovascular and nervous systems from afar. Has she constantly and consistently done either of these things? Or are these more singular events. [/B]

Magneto shouldnt be able to open up wormholes just like that with no effort but he can. Storm manipulates meteorological energy patterns to create weather related effects. However in different environments be it space or other dimensions she works with the patterns at hand which has in the past on a number of occassions manifested in different powers.

It is not subconscious control X. It is very much conscious. Subconsciously she she can accidentally manifest her powers as they are linked to her emotions however the general application of her powers is very much on a conscious level.

No admittedly the manipulation of the bio electric field was a singular event but then so was magneto opening a wormhole and that has been used consisitently in versus match ups so i see no reason why the same thing cant be down for storm.

She has created an E.P and disrupted electronics on many occassions however

Well I'd just note an EMP and an electrical pulse that overloads circuits are different things I think.

Personally I don't buy that Magneto can open wormholes with a thought thing. However he can manipulate electromagnetic force, and subsequently theoretically has control over the other three fundamental forces, so it's not completely out there. It has only happened once arguably as a plot device so I don't know why it's constantly brought up as an accurate portrayal of his capabilities. No one seems to note the Wanda factor. 🙁

What I meant by subconscious vs conscious was the manipulation is subconscious to consciously produce meteorological phenomena, she doesn't pick and choose and manipulate which individual electrons she desires to generate lightning, she doesn't consciously think I want to increase humidity and lower temperature to create rain. She wants to consciously generate lightning and through subconscious manipulation of the atmosphere she does so. That shouldn't give her the control required to shut down a person's nervous or cardiovascular system.

Question as yet unanswered. Was Shinobi Shaw the person whose "heart was shut down by manipulation of his bio-electric field" and was this in an X-Men annual. Because if I recall she never shut down anyone's heart she threatened him with an ultimatum of electrocution. If it's a different incident then my apologies for my ignorance 😄

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Well I'd just note an EMP and an electrical pulse that overloads circuits are different things I think.

Personally I don't buy that Magneto can open wormholes with a thought thing. However he can manipulate electromagnetic force, and subsequently theoretically has control over the other three fundamental forces, so it's not completely out there. It has only happened once arguably as a plot device so I don't know why it's constantly brought up as an accurate portrayal of his capabilities. No one seems to note the Wanda factor. 🙁

What I meant by subconscious vs conscious was the manipulation is subconscious to consciously produce meteorological phenomena, she doesn't pick and choose and manipulate which individual electrons she desires to generate lightning, she doesn't consciously think I want to increase humidity and lower temperature to create rain. She wants to consciously generate lightning and through subconscious manipulation of the atmosphere she does so. That shouldn't give her the control required to shut down a person's nervous or cardiovascular system.

Question as yet unanswered. Was Shinobi Shaw the person whose "heart was shut down by manipulation of his bio-electric field" and was this in an X-Men annual. Because if I recall she never shut down anyone's heart she threatened him with an ultimatum of electrocution. If it's a different incident then my apologies for my ignorance 😄

Nope you're wrong X. In Storms origins and even in Uncanny Xmen i believe, Storm talked of how she learnt to control the various affects of the weather by watching the flow of electrons during lightning strikes, by watching how the patterns of energy behaved during various weather related effects and she copied them. She psionically manipulates these patterns of energy to manifest her weather powers in an earth like atmosphere.

As for the manipulation of the bioelectric field incident you're making me doubt my recollection so im going to have to look search through my comics to refresh my memory lol.

As big a Storm fan as i am i believe in an all out battle to the death that Iron Man would win. However if they were just engaging in a friendly duel then Storm would win. Its her durability that lets her down. Come on CC upgrade my b*tch!! lol

*****Come on CC upgrade my b*tch!! lol*****

^^right there with you galactic, though shouldn't storm have enhanced durability seeing as her powers make her immune to the affects of the weather, and wind resistance can be thought of as affect of the weather. if wind resistance going mach 3 doesn't do anything to her then shouldn't she have enhanced durability, or is this only with wind resistance...........I have always wondered this.

Originally posted by stormfront13
*****Come on CC upgrade my b*tch!! lol*****

^^right there with you galactic, though shouldn't storm have enhanced durability seeing as her powers make her immune to the affects of the weather, and wind resistance can be thought of as affect of the weather. if wind resistance going mach 3 doesn't do anything to her then shouldn't she have enhanced durability, or is this only with wind resistance...........I have always wondered this.

She's enhanced in that she has a high resistance to all weather related effects and phenomena, but not to the point where thats enough to protect her from the effects of someone elses powers

yeah....i figured as always, but yeah I agree, in bloodlust stark would win, but if they fought in something like contest of champions where no one dies then I think storm would win.

Storm is immune to her OWN weather powers.
She can be sliced, shooted, and smashed like any common human.

Originally posted by stormfront13
or storm can just perform an emp(worked in the past) and shut down his heart

Worked in the past. How many years ago? I think that Tony Stark, world class genious would be intelligent enough to make his armor EMP resistant by now...And it still takes longer for Storm to perform EMP then Iron Man to shoot her ass down from sky...

Sf's already admitted that he thinks iron man would win in a battle to the death but he thinks storm would win in a friendly duel. Why's everyone going over old news?

friendly dual? IM can just whack on the sonics to disable her without physically harming her... or use a low level repulsor blast.... Storm is completely outclassed.... most Marvel heroes would be

Storm could only really win via Plot Induced Stupidity. We haven't seen IM get shut down by an EMP in years, in fact, he dishes them out himdself these days. As far as lightning goes, take a look at his bouts with Thor or how he humbled Electro recently. 'Nuff said. Check his many bouts with the Mandarin to see how IM handles tornados. They're really just an inconvenience to a suit that can handle reentry.

She's tricky. He might have to resort to his auto-targeting system to tag her. But then, he can just do that .

I think people are just discussing her abilities now.

*****Storm is immune to her OWN weather powers*****

^^and any other weather based powers anyopne has. in contest of champions she absorbed thors lightning, that wasn't her power but it still didn't do anything to her.

*****IM can just whack on the sonics to disable her without physically harming her... or use a low level repulsor blast.... Storm is completely outclassed.... most Marvel heroes would be*****

^^and someone said sonics are sound and storm can do something to the air pressure so that sound affects don't get in.

How come she can do anything instantly and her opponents, it takes minute to launch simple attack?

Somehow I always get that feeling in fights with Storm...

she can do simple stuff like flying and lightning instantly, things like floods take seconds, and idk, high scale things take longer.

I remember watching the X-Men cartoon and movie, and seeing Storm have to summon the storm before she could produce lightning (I mean, after all, if there isn't a cloud in the sky, you really can't have lightning flashing about). I understand, of course, that movie adaptations are not always true to their comic book counterparts, but my point (and question, of sorts) being, can Storm really create lightning without clouds? And, if not, how can her lightning be considered instantaneous in all situations, then? I could be reading a little too deeply in to this, but...

Bottom line, Iron Man rocks her world... err, but not like that.

maybe like that..... 😎

yeah, you are reading a little to deep into it because storm has summoned lightning on broad daylight where there was no clouds. and it takes seconds to create clouds for lightning anyway.