World's Strongest Super-Being 2

Hulk is potentially the strongest being alive. i say potentially cause he usually has to hulk up to get to the level of whatever character he has to surpass. juggernaut isnt the strongest. although hulk did not win that fight, when he tossed juggy to the mountain cube, cause we both know how the fight turned out. juggernaut got up, x-men came in.

i still say thanos will win this competition he is far above all the other characters here.

how on earth does apocalypse have votes? he should be at the bottom of this list with thing.

hey armandovalles where is that juggernaut picture from, that u have in ur signature? what issue is that from. Did he finally come outta the blackhole?

Hulk is the strongest being in the Marvel Universe.

Originally posted by Gamma Crush!
Hulk.

Hulk would win just to prove he was stronger than the rest of them. That's enough motivation to make him stronger than all of them. Whenever anyone questions Hulk's strength, he gets a massive boost in strength. That's how Spidey gets Hulk to do his dirty work. If Hulk's strength is in question, he will prove that he is the strongest one there is.

Hulk gets stronger when he is angry in the same way that
normal human beings, when they are angry or frightened
or stressed get their adrenaline pumping, and diplay greater
strength and stamina.

But he's not going to get stronger out of a sense of pride, any
more than you or I can show greater strength because we
want to show off. Yes, pride may make you work harder, but
it doesn't do to your body what fear or anger does.

Originally posted by K3VIL
You're new, and you know few.
Thor has lifted more than 100 Tons, Class 100 means you exceed the ability of lifting 100 tons.Example?A section of the Kennedy Airport was substained by Thor while the civilians where evacuating.Thing is Class 90.Darkseid 100 Tons?Darkseid is in Superman's league, he's one of the physical stronger beings in D.C. Universe.Hulk at TOTALLY calm state is 70 tons, but it takes nothing to enter in Class 100 to him.
The current Juggernaut was a low rank Class 100 Strenght possessor.
The classic Juggernaut was a top rank Class 100 Strenght possessor.
Solomon Grundy strenght fluctuates, sometimes he can stay toe to toe with most of JLA'S heavyweights alone, sometimes he gets wiped out easy.Thanos is between 70-100 Tons?You gotta be kidding me.With his control over power cosmic he's one of the highest Class 100 Strenght possessor.Read some comics before post things like this.

Say I got hired by Marvel and was granted full power of story. What if I wrote that Thor struggled to lift 100 tons and couldn't manage to do it. What would you say after reading that comic? What if I showed spider-man lifting a multistory building (weighing over 100 tons) with his natural strength (this feat was done by him already). What would you say here. My point is that writers are inconsistent (they want to sell comics) and shouldn't be trusted. Only read the handbooks printed by Marvel themselves. I have them (the newest ones) and it says that Thor can press anywhere from 70-100 tons and this can be doubled using his belt (but tires him greatly). Reading any old comic shows the inconsistency of a character with their exact power descriptions. Recent comics are best (in consistency) for they do not show characters exceeding their exact power ratings.

Grundy? Thing?

hysterical

Originally posted by Adam Warlock
Hulk's the strongest. Nuff said. Props to both these guys.

If both don't have a strength limit then how can Hulk be stronger?
Use logic

Magneto should have been a participant. He would've won.

Originally posted by azndrgn

The entrants:
Apocalypse (restricted to maintain his default size throughout the competition, i.e., he's not allowed to grow)
Darkseid (not allowed to use telekinetic powers to lift things)
Doomsday
Grundy
Hulk
Juggernaut
Superman (can't use heat vision in Event 5)
Thanos (no Gauntlet, that's not his natural strength)
The Thing
Thor

The events:
1. "Bench press" the Empire State building as many times possible before tiring
2. Contestant is harnessed to a rope connected to 100 linked Panzer tanks. Goal is to pull the line of tanks the fastest across the length of 10 football fields.
3. Like a shot put, throw an 18-wheeler the longest distance
4. Squat 50 tour buses welded together as many times possible before tiring
5. Bend as many steel girders as possible in a minute

Take the poll! Who takes home the trophy?

I have reservations about some of these characters being able to carryout the events. (E.G. Apoc, Current Darksied, Thing and Juggernaught)

And several of these events are based on Speed (Something that Superman / Darksied have an abundance of, when everybody else is lacking)

And how the hell did Hulk win last year. I hope this years forum users have FAR more sense. 🙂

Originally posted by h1a8
Say I got hired by Marvel and was granted full power of story. What if I wrote that Thor struggled to lift 100 tons and couldn't manage to do it. What would you say after reading that comic? What if I showed spider-man lifting a multistory building (weighing over 100 tons) with his natural strength (this feat was done by him already). What would you say here. My point is that writers are inconsistent (they want to sell comics) and shouldn't be trusted. Only read the handbooks printed by Marvel themselves. I have them (the newest ones) and it says that Thor can press anywhere from 70-100 tons and this can be doubled using his belt (but tires him greatly). Reading any [B]old comic shows the inconsistency of a character with their exact power descriptions. Recent comics are best (in consistency) for they do not show characters exceeding their exact power ratings. [/B]

I hope this is sarcasm !!!!!!!!!! 😕

This isn't the 'handbook' forum you know ! 😉

And that updated handbook sounds pretty old.

Originally posted by K3VIL
You're new, and you know few.
Thor has lifted more than 100 Tons, Class 100 means you exceed the ability of lifting 100 tons.Example?A section of the Kennedy Airport was substained by Thor while the civilians where evacuating.Thing is Class 90.Darkseid 100 Tons?Darkseid is in Superman's league, he's one of the physical stronger beings in D.C. Universe.Hulk at TOTALLY calm state is 70 tons, but it takes nothing to enter in Class 100 to him.
The current Juggernaut was a low rank Class 100 Strenght possessor.
The classic Juggernaut was a top rank Class 100 Strenght possessor.
Solomon Grundy strenght fluctuates, sometimes he can stay toe to toe with most of JLA'S heavyweights alone, sometimes he gets wiped out easy.Thanos is between 70-100 Tons?You gotta be kidding me.With his control over power cosmic he's one of the highest Class 100 Strenght possessor.Read some comics before post things like this.

sometimes Marvel and D.C. goes as far as stating a character's max.
like Thor 70-100 tons without belt (in handbook), like Juggs 90-100 tons (in handbook as well), and Thanos presses "about" 100 tons, etc. Also possessing cosmic power doesn't mean your super strong as you like. They are many characters who has the power cosmic but can't lift over 100 tons. Thanos was never shown to lift over 100 tons (He rarely ever uses his physical strength). So to assume that he is stronger than another class 100 is illogical.

You all have presented very well thought-out and intriguing arguments. Kodos to all of you. Kudos.

Unfortunately, I must inform you, with a small bit of satisfaction, that you are all pathetic. Having a 4 page (so far) argument on the strongest comic book character? How old are you people?

I'm going to assume that a good majority of you are over the age of 32, and this very sad indeed. Comics? I could understand how a pleasantly plump pre-pubescent child would get enjoyment from a comic book. But after starting the 8th grade I would think you might want, if you hadn't by this time already, to stop buying them and thus finally putting an end to the ridicule of all the people who have mentally matured beyond that medium. 8th grade guys, 8th grade.

Originally posted by h1a8
sometimes Marvel and D.C. goes as far as stating a character's max.
like Thor 70-100 tons without belt (in handbook), like Juggs 90-100 tons (in handbook as well), and Thanos presses "about" 100 tons, etc. Also possessing cosmic power doesn't mean your super strong as you like. They are many characters who has the power cosmic but can't lift over 100 tons. Thanos was never shown to lift over 100 tons (He rarely ever uses his physical strength). So to assume that he is stronger than another class 100 is illogical.

Originally posted by lord krondor
You all have presented very well thought-out and intriguing arguments. Kodos to all of you. Kudos.

Unfortunately, I must inform you, with a small bit of satisfaction, that you are all pathetic. Having a 4 page (so far) argument on the strongest comic book character? How old are you people?

I'm going to assume that a good majority of you are over the age of 32, and this very sad indeed. Comics? I could understand how a pleasantly plump pre-pubescent child would get enjoyment from a comic book. But after starting the 8th grade I would think you might want, if you hadn't by this time already, to stop buying them and thus finally putting an end to the ridicule of all the people who have mentally matured beyond that medium. 8th grade guys, 8th grade.

you know I'm still young enough to read comics without being to ashamed about it.

Originally posted by yahman
I hope this is sarcasm !!!!!!!!!! 😕

This isn't the 'handbook' forum you know ! 😉

And that updated handbook sounds pretty old.

no sarcasm.
my main point is that all of this comic vs. stuff is nonsense if a human can make a character do exceeding more than what their exact power descriptions says and that one must use these comics as the top evidence. who should win in vs.? should it be based off inconsistent comics?

Originally posted by h1a8
no sarcasm.
my main point is that all of this comic vs. stuff is nonsense if a human can make a character do exceeding more than what their exact power descriptions says and that one must use these comics as the top evidence. who should win in vs.? should it be based off inconsistent comics?

But the handbooks are not necessarily always accurate to the vast majority of comics. So while some feats are above the norm of a characters established limits in comics, and should be ignored, a feat that a character performs fairly regularly should be regarded as within his or her limits, even if a handbook says otherwise. It's really jsut a judgement thing.

Originally posted by lord krondor
You all have presented very well thought-out and intriguing arguments. Kodos to all of you. Kudos.

Unfortunately, I must inform you, with a small bit of satisfaction, that you are all pathetic. Having a 4 page (so far) argument on the strongest comic book character? How old are you people?

I'm going to assume that a good majority of you are over the age of 32, and this very sad indeed. Comics? I could understand how a pleasantly plump pre-pubescent child would get enjoyment from a comic book. But after starting the 8th grade I would think you might want, if you hadn't by this time already, to stop buying them and thus finally putting an end to the ridicule of all the people who have mentally matured beyond that medium. 8th grade guys, 8th grade.

Well done. You've succeeded in becoming the coolest person ever. Seriously. With all the satisfaction I can muster, you have just gone through the registration process for an internet forum, probably for no other purpose than to tell everyone that what they are doing is pointless. You even threw in some SAT words. "That." I'm impressed you knew what it meant. And I'm sure your words have really enlightened all of us. Seriously, seriously. I'm glad I have had the pleasure to witness the greatness of someone just amazingly super cool like you, man. You're the greatest.

F***in jackass...

H1A8, answer me this. Hulk has been shown to be able to lift 150 billion tons. And he is still in class 100. So, the point is, class 100 for Hulk and Thor(don't know about Juggy) means that they can lift in excess of it. Meaning that its the starting point.

BEGONE!!

1. Juggernaut - he doesnt tire
2. Superman - he's the fastest
3. Thor - he's used to throwing things (his hammer) plus he's almost just as strong as anyone else her.
4. Juggernaut - he doesnt tire
5. Thanos - he's smart, unlike the others who would just be running around the city lookin for girders, Ben would just go to a contruction site. The only other 2 who would probly have the smarts to think of this would be Darkseid and Apocalypse but they dont have the strength to match Thanos.

apoc is out (he's not allowed to grow and isn't fast enough for some events)

thing, thor, and grundy is out (obviously)

There is no fear or anger for the Hulk to feed upon in participating in a game contest. He is out (he isn't strong enough at start and he loses to the speed events)

darkseid has shown limits in strength wrestling with Superman, Orion, etc. (post-crises darkseid is weak) He is out

juggs can't win in the 3 speed events. Leaving only 2 left. It is dabatable that can even move the things in the other events. (the marvel handbook says he can press roughly about 100 tons.) Assume he can win 2 (the stamina ones) out of 5. Then he loses to someone who can win the other 3 (the speed ones -where superman/dd is the best candidates) so mathematically he is out.

it is listed in the handbook that thanos press about 100 tons. I used the handbook here because there is no evidence that shows thanos strength (he rarely ever uses it) So if the handbook is right then he is out (lack of strength to even physical move most the objects in the event)

doomsday and superman is a tossup. But remember there is evidence that dd has more stamina, similar if not faster speed, and similar if not greater strength.