World's Strongest Super-Being 2

Originally posted by second_coming27
What about Thor? i heard he lifted Surtur's sword called Twilight which weights roughly equal to a white dwarf star (just imagine how heavy is that?) and lifted the midgard serpent which is as heavy as the earth itself (i assume that earth or most planets are not as heavy as a white dwarf star though)..

So, in my opinion, judging only by mere strength, Thor is in the same league with Hulk and Superman if not stronger. I disagree with u guys saying that Hulk or Supe is physically stronger than Thor.

But then again, this is not a mere strength contest..so the one with th e most durability as well as speed wins this one. Honestly, i cant tell who that might be. Maybe its Supes, Thor, Hulk, or Juggy.

Superman wins in this contest. It's best suited for him.

Originally posted by Olympian
"He was a bit peeved. I believe it was TIH#230."

Thanks.

"I agree, Base strength was some silly notion the Hand books made up to look clever."

I think it was in the comics itself that Samson once said to be at that level. But cant be sure or confirm.

"He's never calm in a fight, and his strength can increase by ridiculous amounts in a very short time"

Agreed, but its exactly the fact that he wasent angry when Samson pulled that one, where the notion comes/came from.

Out of that example, yes its difficult to measure anyway, especially with the variations the character has had.

Agreed, olympian. After giving it some careful thought, I've come to the conclusion that you're right. Savage Hulk isn't quite as strong when calm. However, he's clearly far stronger than the 100 ton cap everyone puts on him. Calm, he's not as strong as Superman/Thor/Herc. Normally, he's as strong as Superman/Thor/Herc. Enraged, he can be stronger than virtually anyone, and it shows. Here's how Savage Hulk fits into the strength hierarchy.

1) Savage Hulk (enraged - potentially limitless)
2) Superman/Thor/Immortal Hercules/Savage Hulk (normally)
3) Wonder Woman/Savage Hulk(calm)/She-Hulk(current)
4) Captain Marvel/Hercules(mortal)

He's not always at Earth-moving strength, but he can get there in the snap of a finger. Savage Hulk's greatest feats of strength compare to Pre-crisis Superman's. Savage Hulk is almost like "Pre-crisis" Hulk. He's inconsistent but his greatest feats of strength cannot be regarded as anything but uber.

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
He's moved planets, and done far greater things with his strength than Post-crisis Supes can acclaim to.

SAVAGE Hulk does not start off at Samson's level. He starts off at or just below Thor's level, and his strength increases like it's nothing. He's high class 100.

He hasn't move any planets. What are you talking about? Superman has move planets, destroyed solar systems with a sneeze, extinguished stars with his breath, threw spaceships to other solar systems,etc.

You are right to a degree. Sometimes (very rare) Hulk strength has increased very fast. But most times his strength grows slowly with his rage. Also many sources including handbooks say that Hulk
's start strength is around 100 tons and that in his calmest Hulk state he is at 70 tons. But on average Hulk is way above 100 tons. But note: there is nothing in these events to enrage Hulk for his strength to become sufficient to beat the others (like superman, thor, etc.).

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
He was a bit peeved. I believe it was TIH#230.

My point is that Savage Hulk's base strength can't really be measured, and therefore, it's irrelevant. He's never calm in a fight, and his strength can increase by ridiculous amounts in a very short time.

can doesn't mean will (most times it doesn't happen like that).
Hulk only fought Thor to a stalemate only because Hulk's strength increased. If his strength wouldn't have increased then he would have lost for sure.
also the incredible feats you've named is not start Hulk but a more than average enraged Hulk. And yes I seen (I can't remember the comic though) where Hulk couldn't do something (whether it was lifting, pushing, or pulling an object) But he was able to do it when he got more angry.

If this is purely strength, Hulk wins, cuz he gets himself incalculably angry before each competition by eating something and accidently biting the inside of his cheek.

Originally posted by Adam Warlock
Hulk.
Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
Hulk didn't realize or care what he was doing when he moved the Earth, or how doing so would affect anyone. Savage Hulk is an imbecile.

Superman moving the Earth using his flight, strength, and tactile telekinesis is not illogical; it's incredible, but he's just that powerful. Hulk punching the Earth and moving it from it's orbit isn't illogical, it's incredible. If Hulk punched the earth, and it turned into a grapefruit, that would be illogical. Incredible and illogical are not synonyms.

In case you were wondering "sneezing away a solar system" is highly illogical. Not incredible, illogical.

Hulk moved the matter-antimatter orbs in "Marvel Team-up featuring Spiderman," published in 1988. The difference between Pre-crisis Superman and Hulk is that Hulk has never been "ret-conned" (retroactive continuity.) In the DC timeline, Pre-Crisis Superman never existed, and none of his feats ever occurred. Hulk could meet or exceed anyone's strength give time and a sufficient source of stress; even Superman Prime. But, we're talking about Normal Savage Hulk and Normal JLA Superman.

Superman is a solar battery. Like any battery, his body can only hold so much sunlight. Hulk is a gamma radiation generator. Hulk relies only on anger, adrenaline flow, and his overactive medulla oblongata. The more physical or emotional stress he experiences, his strength increases exponentially. He gradually gains body mass, allowing him to attain limitless levels of strength.

Props to Cube. Hulk is the strongest.

😆 💃 😆

Are you sure supes left because he could no longer absorb energy cause I dont remember that being stated.

Originally posted by Mindship
If this is purely strength, Hulk wins, cuz he gets himself incalculably angry before each competition by eating something and accidently biting the inside of his cheek.

Your very funny. But Hulk couldn't bite himself (That's impossible!)
Why?
For the same reason you can't (unless you are crazy).
And he couldn't eat anything that would hurt him.
And these things wouldn't even make him angry but happy since he has to be crazy to do these things.

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
Marvel directory isn't a canon source. The only Hulk with a base strength of 70 tons is the Grey Hulk. Hulk's more powerful incarnations are much, much stronger than that. Savage Hulk once carried a couple million tons of lumber without strain, and he even moved an entire tectonic plate (weighing countless megatons,) with his bare hands.

Another thing; Savage Hulk doesn't need to get extremely angry to become strong enough to lift something extremely heavy. He has an infinite power source inside of him that allows him to gain crazy amounts of strength when he needs to, just by getting angry. All he would have to do is get angry, and then try to lift it.

Because of this ability, Hulk can become much, much stronger than anyone on in this contest.

It is a canon source for they quote from marvel universe. I will quote from a canon marvel source (the handbook). "Hulk's strength increases in direct proportion to his anger." So his strength level depends on his anger level.

Originally posted by azndrgn

1. "Bench press" the Empire State building as many times possible before tiring
2. Contestant is harnessed to a rope connected to 100 linked Panzer tanks. Goal is to pull the line of tanks the fastest across the length of 10 football fields.
3. Like a shot put, throw an 18-wheeler the longest distance
4. Squat 50 tour buses welded together as many times possible before tiring
5. Bend as many steel girders as possible in a minute

Winner of each contest

1) Hulk (he can be knocked out but this will not tired him, Supes can use speed but will tired. runner up will be Thor)

2) Thor (Supes and DD have speed adv here, but mjolnir was allowed no one matches Thor speed.)

3) Hulk,Thor,Supes,DD tied

4)Hulk

5)Hulk,Thor,Supes,DD tied

Out of this list Thanos with out a doubt..

Originally posted by id369
Out of this list Thanos with out a doubt..

Thanos is not even class 100. He is a 6 in strength (able to lift 90-100 tons). I have the newest marvel handbook. So he couldn't even lift anything in this whole contest. He has vast energy projection and speed though.

Originally posted by h1a8
Thanos is not even class 100. He is a 6 in strength (able to lift 90-100 tons). I have the newest marvel handbook. So he couldn't even lift anything in this whole contest. He has vast energy projection and speed though.

cough, cough, ('Bull shit !' ) cough, cough !

And what handbook was this ? 🙂

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
Agreed, olympian. After giving it some careful thought, I've come to the conclusion that you're right. Savage Hulk isn't quite as strong when calm. However, he's clearly far stronger than the 100 ton cap everyone puts on him. Calm, he's not as strong as Superman/Thor/Herc. Normally, he's as strong as Superman/Thor/Herc. Enraged, he can be stronger than virtually anyone, and it shows. Here's how Savage Hulk fits into the strength hierarchy.

1) Savage Hulk (enraged - potentially limitless)
2) Superman/Thor/Immortal Hercules/Savage Hulk (normally)
3) Wonder Woman/Savage Hulk(calm)/She-Hulk(current)
4) Captain Marvel/Hercules(mortal)

He's not always at Earth-moving strength, but he can get there in the snap of a finger. Savage Hulk's greatest feats of strength compare to Pre-crisis Superman's. Savage Hulk is almost like "Pre-crisis" Hulk. He's inconsistent but his greatest feats of strength cannot be regarded as anything but uber.

He is an insect compared to Pre Crisis Supes ! Really, he is ! Some one please post that pic of superboy towing about 20 planets ! IMO After Pre Crisis supes he comes a quite distant second in the old feat department. Lifting feat wise i'd then put Post Crisis Superman, Wonder Woman, Immortal Herc, and then Thor. This is just based on lifting feats ! 🙂 Current Hulk, since Heroes reborn has been a little diapointing in the lifting feat department! 🙁 Although he did recently throw the sydney opera house ! 🙂

when it comes to strenght id say hercules. i know some of you are thinking hulk or juggy but hecules has kicked there butts before. but the most powerful id go for gladiator. hes the most powerful guy out there in the universe and he has defeated the xmen many times and others.

Originally posted by Fishy 500
cough, cough, ('Bull shit !' ) cough, cough !

And what handbook was this ? 🙂

your right its b.s.
i was mistaken
it was marvel universe cards years 92 and 93
They both list Thanos as a 6 (up to 100 tons)