Originally posted by newjak86
3. Like a shot put, throw an 18-wheeler the longest distance
Event 3:
Winner: Juggs I say this because he can tap into a large power source potentially toss the thing to far for anybody else
Winner Juggs
understand that a throw's distance is dependant upon its intial velocity and not the throwers strength.
That is basic physics!
That is why randy johnson throws 100mph and a body builder can barely throw 70mph on average.
Juggernaut may be strong but he is fairly slow. Actually he is the slowest of them all in this contest. There is no Juggs is going to have more intial velocity on his throw than Superman or the others. So Superman wins this and Juggs comes in last on this event.
Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
Marvel directory isn't a canon source. The only Hulk with a base strength of 70 tons is the Grey Hulk. Hulk's more powerful incarnations are much, much stronger than that. Savage Hulk once carried a couple million tons of lumber without strain, and he even moved an entire tectonic plate (weighing countless megatons,) with his bare hands.Another thing; Savage Hulk doesn't need to get extremely angry to become strong enough to lift something extremely heavy. He has an infinite power source inside of him that allows him to gain crazy amounts of strength when he needs to, just by getting angry. All he would have to do is get angry, and then try to lift it.
Because of this ability, Hulk can become much, much stronger than anyone on in this contest.
Millions of tons of lumber ?
Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
Superman and Hulk are both WAY above 250 tons or 100 ton lifting range. The length of time it takes Hulk to get stronger differs between incarnations. Simply by getting angry/stressed/afraid/etc. Savage Hulk can gain any level of strength at any given time. As much strength as he needs. There's no weight that's too heavy for him. He's truely the strongest superbeing ever.
I agree somewhat.
he/she is lying or d.c. library is not official. I went to an official d.c. site a while ago and that stated that post crisis superman upper limit is unknown and his limit is more than 100,000 tons. They point out instances where post crisis superman lifted incalculable tons. action comics 585 and 589. jla 75,80
Hulk's start strength is 100 tons. This is a fact. Look it up anywhere. Hulk cannot gain any level of strength at any given time. He was beaten unconscience many times by creatures far more powerful than him at the start (like abomination). His strength grew too slow for him to have a chance in these fights. In this contest there is nothing to enrage hulk for his strength to become sufficient.
Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
Marvel directory isn't a canon source. The only Hulk with a base strength of 70 tons is the Grey Hulk. Hulk's more powerful incarnations are much, much stronger than that. Savage Hulk once carried a couple million tons of lumber without strain, and he even moved an entire tectonic plate (weighing countless megatons,) with his bare hands.Another thing; Savage Hulk doesn't need to get extremely angry to become strong enough to lift something extremely heavy. He has an infinite power source inside of him that allows him to gain crazy amounts of strength when he needs to, just by getting angry. All he would have to do is get angry, and then try to lift it.
Because of this ability, Hulk can become much, much stronger than anyone on in this contest.
its true you are a hulk fan. you must read handbooks by marvel though.
hulk's start strength is roughly 100 tons. but it grows from there. and false, hulk does need to get extremely angry to become strong enough to lift something extremely heavy. any and all sources whether official or not will tell you that this is the utter definition of hulk. why are you making up new power descriptions for hulk. I've even seen with my own eyes comics as a kid where savage hulk couldn't lift some very heavy things and where he was beaten unconscience by beings far more powerful at the start. He strength grew too slow for him to have a chance.
"Superman is the strongest, he's a mover of planet's"
Pre crisis maybe. Post crisis, only amped.
"hulk's start strength is roughly 100 tons. but it grows from there"
Hulks start strenght its Samson level. A bit higher perhaps. Not cl 100 or high cl 100. He does get there pretty easy tho.
"I've even seen with my own eyes comics as a kid where savage hulk couldn't lift some very heavy things and where he was beaten unconscience by beings far more powerful at the start"
And who doesnt get beat by beings more powerful....?
Originally posted by olympian
"Superman is the strongest, he's a mover of planet's"Pre crisis maybe. Post crisis, only amped.
"hulk's start strength is roughly 100 tons. but it grows from there"
Hulks start strenght its Samson level. A bit higher perhaps. Not cl 100 or high cl 100. He does get there pretty easy tho.
"I've even seen with my own eyes comics as a kid where savage hulk couldn't lift some very heavy things and where he was beaten unconscience by beings far more powerful at the start"
And who doesnt get beat by beings more powerful....?
I agree with all this. 🙂 The Gamma transformation is obviously very sensative to emotional and physical changes. human physical effects such as weight training and adrenaline have major impacts on it. 🙂
Originally posted by h1a8
its true you are a hulk fan. you must read handbooks by marvel though.
hulk's start strength is roughly 100 tons. but it grows from there. and false, hulk does need to get extremely angry to become strong enough to lift something extremely heavy. any and all sources whether official or not will tell you that this is the utter definition of hulk. why are you making up new power descriptions for hulk. I've even seen with my own eyes comics as a kid where savage hulk couldn't lift some very heavy things and where he was beaten unconscience by beings far more powerful at the start. He strength grew too slow for him to have a chance.
All you can go by is the handbook, becaus you haven't read enough about Savage Hulk. He's moved planets, and done far greater things with his strength than Post-crisis Supes can acclaim to. If you can recall a comic wherein Hulk couldn't lift something, give me an issue number. I'll look through my collection. I can assure you, it's never happened.
As for getting beaten by beings who are far more powerful, who doesn't? However, Hulk has NEVER been unable to match the strength of his opponent, no matter how strong they are.
SAVAGE Hulk does not start off at Samson's level. He starts off at or just below Thor's level, and his strength increases like it's nothing. He's high class 100.
Originally posted by olympian
"SAVAGE Hulk does not start off at Samson's level"What level does Samson have to you? Without taking his low showing (kinda) agaist Grey Hulk, he always seem to do well at the start against Savage Hulk, (meaning start/base and going down after a time).
And wich planets did the Hulk moved tho?
Savage Hulk's 'base' strength is wildly inconsistant. Sometimes Thing can give him a good fight. At other times, he's seen moving tectonic plates. At other times, stalemating or overcoming Thor. His 'base' strength is impossible to measure. Fights are never a good way to judge. However, he's never failed at lifting something, calm or not.
I'd say that the Doc he has the same base strength as Grey Hulk when calm.
Savage Hulk moved the Earth. He punched it so hard that shockwaves traveled all the way to the other side of the globe, and the planet shifted out of it's orbit. It's not like he can fly and push it.
"Savage Hulk's 'base' strength is wildly inconsistant. Sometimes Thing can give him a good fight."
Its my opinion but Samson has at least one fight where he did better than Thing usually did. I`d even say ever. And a ko (ok, suckerpunch) that gives the notion that both wer more or less in the same escalation. It happened when Hulk turned around and wasent "angry".
Or then again Byrne Samson was like that but the rest falls short, perhaps.
"Savage Hulk moved the Earth. He punched it so hard that shockwaves traveled all the way to the other side of the globe, and the planet shifted out of it's orbit. It's not like he can fly and push it."
Thats one mad feat, where did it happened?
Originally posted by olympian
"Savage Hulk's 'base' strength is wildly inconsistant. Sometimes Thing can give him a good fight."Its my opinion but Samson has at least one fight where he did better than Thing usually did. I`d even say ever. And a ko (ok, suckerpunch) that gives the notion that both wer more or less in the same escalation. It happened when Hulk turned around and wasent "angry".
Or then again Byrne Samson was like that but the rest falls short, perhaps.
"Savage Hulk moved the Earth. He punched it so hard that shockwaves traveled all the way to the other side of the globe, and the planet shifted out of it's orbit. It's not like he can fly and push it."
Thats one mad feat, where did it happened?
My point is that Savage Hulk's base strength can't really be measured, and therefore, it's irrelevant. He's never calm in a fight, and his strength can increase by ridiculous amounts in a very short time.
Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
He was a bit peeved. I believe it was TIH#230.My point is that Savage Hulk's base strength can't really be measured, and therefore, it's irrelevant. He's never calm in a fight, and his strength can increase by ridiculous amounts in a very short time.
I agree, Base strength was some silly notion the Hand books made up to look clever.
"He was a bit peeved. I believe it was TIH#230."
Thanks.
"I agree, Base strength was some silly notion the Hand books made up to look clever."
I think it was in the comics itself that Samson once said to be at that level. But cant be sure or confirm.
"He's never calm in a fight, and his strength can increase by ridiculous amounts in a very short time"
Agreed, but its exactly the fact that he wasent angry when Samson pulled that one, where the notion comes/came from.
Out of that example, yes its difficult to measure anyway, especially with the variations the character has had.
What about Thor? i heard he lifted Surtur's sword called Twilight which weights roughly equal to a white dwarf star (just imagine how heavy is that?) and lifted the midgard serpent which is as heavy as the earth itself (i assume that earth or most planets are not as heavy as a white dwarf star though)..
So, in my opinion, judging only by mere strength, Thor is in the same league with Hulk and Superman if not stronger. I disagree with u guys saying that Hulk or Supe is physically stronger than Thor.
But then again, this is not a mere strength contest..so the one with th e most durability as well as speed wins this one. Honestly, i cant tell who that might be. Maybe its Supes, Thor, Hulk, or Juggy.