Originally posted by Victor Von Doom
Where exactly did this 'sound ass kicking' take place, don't recall it personally.
it was in revenge (or return) of the sinister six, ock got new adamantium arms, was fighting spidey, hulk jumped in, kicked around electro and mysterio, then ock beat the crap out of him, knocked him out and threw him in the river (because the police arrived and ock isn't good against bullets)
Yeah, but that was the Professor Hulk, another of Hulks weaker incarnations with low durability. Besides, no adamantium arms in this one. Captain America is a way better fighter, if he can manage to get past those arms, (which I think he could do, considering his exceptional agility, reflexes, and gymnastic ability,) Ock's out cold.
I think the more realistic portrayal is in Hulk's own comic.
Neutral portrayal: Secret Wars.
Unlikely to be realistic: a comic designed to put over that particular group, that Hulk could destroy with ease.
While we are talking of random comics, in The Ultimates, Cpt America beat the crap out of Hulk momentarily as well. That was a super charged version of Hulk.
that was not a "super charged version of Hulk" if it was it wouldn't have even noticed cap
as for cap being fast and agile enough to dodge....... not likely, spider-man is way faster and more agile and when using his spider sense can only just keep ahead of the arms
ock doesn't need adamantium to hurt a human, aluminium would do
Are you guys talking about the one in which Bruce takes the super soldier serum? (or Cap's blood or whatever) It didn't supercharge him, it made him crazy, and caused him to transform into a stronger grey-hulk. Cap got off a few quick shots after Hulk tore into the tank, then Hulk beat the hell out of him. However If Captain America hit Doctor Octopus with those blows, he'd be out cold. But still, Doctor Octopus has the advantage.
Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
Yeah, but that was the Professor Hulk, another of Hulks weaker incarnations with low durability. Besides, no adamantium arms in this one. Captain America is a way better fighter, if he can manage to get past those arms, (which I think he could do, considering his exceptional agility, reflexes, and gymnastic ability,) Ock's out cold.
Low durability had nothing to do with it.
Ock suspended Hulk in air using three arms to hold both of hulks arms and one leg....the 4th tentacle repeatedly slammed Hulk in the face and it resulted in Hulk being knocked out.
In that episode Hulk even admitted that he would just have to "bop" Ock on the head to knock him out. He even managed to do just that to Electro...he flicked him like a booger on a finger nail. When Hulk tried to sneak up on Doc, who was busy beating the sh!t out of Spiderman....Doc Ock caught him and layed down the biggest Hulk whooping I've ever seen.
i think it was like Spiderman 19 or 17 or something. It was definitly part of the Return of the Sinister Six.
Originally posted by CountQuan
If Captain America is better than Spider-Man, then he wins. If SPidey is bettter, Ock wins.
As a character (in my opinion)-Spidey
As a tactician-Cap., when it comes to PLANNING an attack, but Spidey takes it solidly when it comes to taking it out there (no planning)
I think Ock would win this battle, based on the fact that his tentacles almost as or just as fast as Spidey himself, then that makes them faster than Cap. Which means that if Cap. hides behind that shield to long for planning, and Ock realizes the ill-effect of striking the shield repeatedly, he would rip it from his grasp (superior tenticle strength), or take the shield and swing it and Cap. around and around in near blurring circles until the dizzying effect disorients Cap. a great deal and causes him to lose his grip. As he lands off in an area far to the side, Ock makes his way to his side and strikes him repeatedly with the tentacles.
A pro-Cap scenario would be to sling the shield as hard as he could toward Ock at the starting bell, as his tentacles rises to sheild him and catch the shield, Cap. could run toward him and push off with a jump high into the air, soaring towards Ock's head. As Ock shakes the shock of the occurance off and throws the shield off to the side, Cap. could jab him with enough sufficient force to knock him out. But, this has little chance of happening, seeing that Ock deals with Spidey-level speed attacks.
Could go either way, I can see Captain America winning this one. If they ever meet each other and start fighting, Captain America would probably win, because he's one of those guys who is too popular to go down easy.
When written right, however, I think Dock Ock should win. I never thought very much of him (a would be genius who in the end always screws up), but those four tentacles of him ARE extremely fast, strong and dangerous.
If CA throws his shield at Dock Ock, one of the tentacles would probably catch the shield in mid-flight and throw it away. And without his shield, CA has absolutely NO chance.