Captain America vs. Doc Ock

Here's how Ock prevails:
He takes Capt's shield away and then stomp on America with his four tentacles for 20 minutes.

Originally posted by Scoobless
this isn't a marvel fight so we aren't working with the "captain America wins because he has America in his name" mentality, for once he actually has to work for a victory........ or the posters have to work to show he can get a victory

Do people on here read comics?

Captain America is overrrated, yes.

Does he win fights? Yes.

Beat better people than Ock? Yes.

By normal fighting methods? Yes.

Will he win this fight? Yes.

Should he, possibly not.

You actually can't call it man with four metal arms, v man with shield, no more than Doc Ock v Hulk would be man with four metal arms v muscley green man.

Based on the actual characters, their performances, histories, strengths, weaknesses, etc, Cap wins EASILY.

I'm not going to sit and do a little roleplay of Cap dodges one arm, throws his shield, etc.

Who wins between Chelsea and Portsmouth? Chelsea. Why? They just do. No need to script out every pass.

Originally posted by Victor Von Doom
I'm not going to sit and do a little roleplay of Cap dodges one arm, throws his shield, etc.

of course you aren't, because even someone who say's "cap will win because cap always wins" would find it difficult to come up with a foolproof way for him to defeat someone stronger, faster, smarter and meaner than him

Originally posted by Scoobless
of course you aren't, because even someone who say's "cap will win because cap always wins" would find it difficult to come up with a foolproof way for him to defeat someone stronger, faster, smarter and meaner than him

No, it's because to do that is nonsensical. More what I was thinking.

Cap dodges one arm, throws his shield. Ock catches it! He catches it! Ock says 'nothing can stop me n...' Kick to the face! Face! FACE!

Cap.

ock can catch the shield with one arm while still attacking with the other three, without a marvel writer to back him up Cap shouldn't be able to win this............. especially if you were to use ock when he had his force field

Without a Marvel writer to back him up?

IE fight on paper.

Have addressed all this.

Cap 'shouldn't' win, but would.

Originally posted by Scoobless
of course you aren't, because even someone who say's "cap will win because cap always wins" would find it difficult to come up with a foolproof way for him to defeat someone stronger, faster, smarter and meaner than him

Originally posted by Victor Von Doom

Cap dodges one arm, throws his shield. Ock catches it! He catches it! Ock says 'nothing can stop me n...' Kick to the face! Face! FACE!

Ock catches Cap's leg and throws him around like an ragdoll.

I think you are all missing the point.

SHOULD Captain America win this fight, on paper? No.

Would he? Yes. Why? Coz he's Captain America.

-AC

i really, really, REALLY hate that type of nonsensical reasoning......... it's a forum fight....... screw what marvel would allow, here, cap is allowed to, and will, lose

Yeah who gives a hoot about popularity and writers lol. Here it's common sense and nothing else 😉 !

Therefore Dock Ock wins.

let's hear it for the not so good doctor!

This is reality not a popularity contest, Alpha

Really? N...no way. Ge...no. Get out.

Coz I ACTUALLY believe that we weren't going by abilities. I thought we were going by popularity. Also, how silly of me to think that referencing what WOULD happen is so irrelevent.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Really? N...no way. Ge...no. Get out.

Coz I ACTUALLY believe that we weren't going by abilities. I thought we were going by popularity. Also, how silly of me to think that referencing what WOULD happen is so irrelevent.

-AC

this isn't a "guess what marvel will put in their stories if......." forum, so none of that is relevent, it's purely about who would win and why voted for and discussed by the fans regardless of marvel's love of their golden boy Rogers

Well even so, we can only go by performances in the comics.

I don't go by powers on paper, because that's ludicrous.

Captain America: fights brilliantly regardless of opponent.

Doc: mediocre fighter with cool weapons. Has been flicked into a coma.

Seeing as almost every forum battle features people going by what they know in the comics, I suggest it is a bit like that, really.

Vic and I are just saying, Doc Ock would win on paper, obviously. However, there's not much "on paper" about Captain America. If they had already fought in the comics I guarantee it would have been brought up. So don't try saying these battles have no connection to the comics.

-AC

ock is a decent fighter, he held off most of the FF, the Hulk, ghostrider and one or two others all at the same time, he's beaten both spidey and the hulk unconscious, he's as fast as spider-man and doesn't tire easily because he doesn't exert his muscles and even the bad guys are scared of him
doc ock would be a major threat to any street level character with no long range weapons, cap only has one long range weapon and it's big enough for him to see easily, plus he is fast enough to stop it, spidey is faster and stronger than cap and has more experiance with ock but never takes him lightly....... i don't believe cap can win the majority of encounters against him

Depends on the writer and comic I suppose.

Cap is always written as a brilliant fighter: Ock is often as useful as a siamese retard.

like scoobless said before i hate those kinds of nonsencical reasoning