Darth Sidious vs. Exar Kun

Yeah, but who DID take over the galaxy under the noses of the Jedi?
who DID take the chosen one from the jedi under the noses of the Jedi?
who DOES defeat Yoda?
who DOES cloud the entire lightside of the force?

Good points, but consider that it took ALL the Jedi of the day to defeat Exar. Plus, it's logical that over time, the power of both Sith and Jedi will have diminished. As texts are translated and re-translated, stuff gets lost.

And I don't buy the 'prophecy' for a minute. If that were so, Palpatine could strut into the temple any time he felt like it and single-handedly wipe out all the Jedi.

And if u remember correctly, they didn't actually win over Kun. And also, when Kun confronted all the thousand Jedis at a Council meeting he froze them all, he could easily have destroyed all the Jedi right there.

It's been stated that Darth Sidious is THE MOST POWERFUL FORCE USER EVER. So tell me again why we're even arguing the fact that any one person alone could take him on in combat....seriously guys, come on.

Originally posted by jackstain
It's been stated that Darth Sidious is THE MOST POWERFUL FORCE USER EVER. So tell me again why we're even arguing the fact that any one person alone could take him on in combat....seriously guys, come on.

That statement has no meaning here. when we start talking about Exar Kun we stepped into the EU. And in the EU Kun is far more superior then Palps.

um how does it have no meaning? when it was stated MOST POWERFUL FORCE USER......not in just the movies,or just the times of the empire......EVER!!! that means he was compared to exar kunT and was more powerul....ever means,um,EVER. like, no one has ever been more powerful. hello?

Ok then, give me the quote where GL says that Sidious is the most powerful Sith ever, also in the EU.

I don't think that's gonna happen any time soon.

I don't buy the prophecy bit either. I find it lame and really, really unfounded in EU territory.

Exar Kun, definately.

Hey, Sidious is a movie character, Kun is an EU character. Which means, we have to take every bit of information into our decision, which is why I choose Sidious.

chilled monkey said:
"Good points, but consider that it took ALL the Jedi of the day to defeat Exar. Plus, it's logical that over time, the power of both Sith and Jedi will have diminished. As texts are translated and re-translated, stuff gets lost."
Technically it took the combined power of Luke and Anakin to defeat Sidious. Weren't they all of the Jedi of their day?

chilled monkey said:
"And I don't buy the 'prophecy' for a minute. If that were so, Palpatine could strut into the temple any time he felt like it and single-handedly wipe out all the Jedi."

Sidious doesn't know about the prophecy, (IMHO) otherwise he would have never gone near Anakin with promises of more power. He didn't go waste the Jedi like you claim he could have, because he's smart, calculating and a master of string pulling. His plan was to become Emperor first, kill Jedi second.

Alright, but suppose Sidious DID know about the prophecy? Are you telling me that if he did know he could kill every single Jedi by himself if he wanted too?

That seems too unbelievable to me.

Sidious did know of the prophesy. He believed that balance could only be achieved through order, and the strict order than he imposed through the galactic empire. He might even have believed himself to be the chosen one.

omg, go to supershadow.com......thats where u can see that sidious is the most powerful ever

and it says on the website that alll facts are ok'd with GL first

And u just lost all form for credibility.

SS is the biggest Star wars fraud in the world and is much hated here, be careful to speak of him. It is even a thread for mocking him: http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f6/t294610.html

Originally posted by jackstain
omg, go to supershadow.com......thats where u can see that sidious is the most powerful ever

uh oh, here we go again...

you guys are just jealous of his incredibly hot girlfriend lol

ok well i didnt know that the site was bogus u sack heads.......that was just one source. Ive seen it many places, thats just the only one i remembered

Jackstain, if you were here to see yourself, I'd laugh at you. I would insult you, but why take away your dayjob?

And it has never been stated that Sidious is the most powerful Force user of all time, anywhere credible. Most I can find to even give the guy some props is that he is, to quote Starwars.com database, the most powerful practitioner of Sith techniques in modern times. Meaning, Exar Kun pwns his ass. It's that simple.

Was Exar Kun so powerful that the force had to create a life to destroy him? didn't think so

Note also that Starwars.com says Anakin was possibly "Conceived by the will of the Force". Doesn't mean the Force banged his mother and thus he was born. It implies that his birth may have been orchestrated by the Force and its will, but nothing else. It also doesn't have a clause saying he's the greatest Jedi of all time.