If Satan is bad, why does he punish people who are evil?

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Originally posted by KPrince
He's right here on earth, projecting his thoughts and attitude into our minds

hysterical

Satan is not real.

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
Haha, excellent!

I think the Christian perspective on this is that its God that punishes them to Hell, but i can see your logic perfectly. If Devil is evil then by proxy he would want to reward the people who are murderous and terrible for going against God's law.

However -

If Devil is personification of evil then he will want everyone to suffer, not just god - he fights for souls of whoever really.

If he is evil then he wants all and everyone to sufer under his...terrible...wrath...or whatever.

GOD: a deity who demands to be worshipped, threatens us with eternal damnation, tells us how we should live our lives and has had multiple wars carried out in his name due to slight differences in belief structures

then his enemy

SATAN: doesn't tell us how to live, doesn't have smear campaigns going against his "opposition", doesn't try to subvert your free will in any way, shape, or form and has never had a war or mass genecide carried out in his name.... doesn't even stoop to his opponents tactics of fear mongering

think of them as politicians. if you knew one was constantly slinging mud at the other and demanding your worship/loyalty.... and that the other left you alone to make your own choice, didn't degrade the "opponent" in any way, had no propaganda and didn't threaten you with fear tactics

which would you say was the better person?

interesting.... no?

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Originally posted by Scoobless
GOD: a deity who demands to be worshipped, threatens us with eternal damnation, tells us how we should live our lives and has had multiple wars carried out in his name due to slight differences in belief structures

then his enemy

SATAN: doesn't tell us how to live, doesn't have smear campaigns going against his "opposition", doesn't try to subvert your free will in any way, shape, or form and has never had a war or mass genecide carried out in his name.... doesn't even stoop to his opponents tactics of fear mongering

think of them as politicians. if you knew one was constantly slinging mud at the other and demanding your worship/loyalty.... and that the other left you alone to make your own choice, didn't degrade the "opponent" in any way, had no propaganda and didn't threaten you with fear tactics

which would you say was the better person?

interesting.... no?

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God does not need.
God is not limited.
God is every thing, good and evil.
The Christian god is limited.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
God does not need.
God is not limited.
God is every thing, good and evil.
The Christian god is limited.

if he does not need then why does he ask us to do .... anything?

why even allow people to become aware of him in the first place?

Originally posted by Scoobless
if he does not need then why does he ask us to do .... anything?

why even allow people to become aware of him in the first place?

God is not a he. God does not talk. God does not do. However, because we are part of God, we need, we talk, we do. 😄

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
God is not a he. God does not talk. God does not do. However, because we are part of God, we need, we talk, we do. 😄

i use "he" as it's quicker to type... 🙂

if he does not talk, need or do... where did the idea of "god" come from?... men (people)?

an idea created by someone, agreed on by others... and after a few thousand years... believed in by billions

Originally posted by Scoobless
i use "he" as it's quicker to type... 🙂

if he does not talk, need or do... where did the idea of "god" come from?... men (people)?

an idea created by someone, agreed on by others... and after a few thousand years... believed in by billions

God does not need man.

I didn't mean to sound like I was criticizing you. I am sorry.

My belief in God is a choice I have made. I am a Buddhist, and Buddhism does not deal with the idea of God but I know many Buddhists how believe in God (not a Christian god).

It works like this. Life and non-life are the same. It is our perception that make the difference. You can say that all things are dead, or you can say that all things are alive. I believe that all things are alive, and this life is God. We are like the cells in your body. They are alive, but altogether make up you.

i'm just debating the concept of "God" as opposed to your actual belief therein ... or lack thereof

God is a concept created by people as a means to control through fear (in some religions anyway)

Originally posted by Scoobless
i'm just debating the concept of "God" as opposed to your actual belief therein ... or lack thereof

God is a concept created by people as a means to control through fear (in some religions anyway)

Yes, I agree. But that take all the fun out of it, doesn't it?

I just wanted to let you know that there is another way of looking at it. 😄

This is because the men who wrote the bible didnt fully think these things out, so then you get all sorts of logical fallicies and paradoxes that they probably couldnt even comprehend at the time.

there are a vast multitude of ways of "looking at it"

i'm comfortable in my lack of religion of the organised variety for the moment

i prefer the freedom to alter my views when i feel the need to

I alter my views also as I learn or experience new information...As for the devil...there is no such thing...It's a scape goat...It's a way to not blame god for the destructiveness in man and the world, with out the devil people would have to blame god...and who would do that?...So enter the scape goat......Now if you believe in multiple gods, then that scape goat would have another name...People just cannot accept the fact that a god would allow evil...they say NO WAY, but infact if there is no place where god is not, then it would mean that god is everywhere and in everybody and in evil.

First of all the devil does'nt care about anybody all he likes to do is hurt people and get them away from god.He knows his time is limited and when person goes to hell there not with all their friends they are seperated so if you think satan could care about anyone he would rather kill someone because he does'nt care about anyone.

Originally posted by darktim1
First of all the devil does'nt care about anybody all he likes to do is hurt people and get them away from god.He knows his time is limited and when person goes to hell there not with all their friends they are seperated so if you think satan could care about anyone he would rather kill someone because he does'nt care about anyone.

How do you know this. Please show proof.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
How do you know this. Please show proof.

you know better than to ask for proof in a religion forum.... just ask him why he believes that and what (if anything) he's basing it on

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Originally posted by Scoobless
you know better than to ask for proof in a religion forum.... just ask him why he believes that and what (if anything) he's basing it on

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I always go for the gusto. 😄

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Wouldn't he like them for being sadistic and murderous? Wouldn't that prove to him that God is wrong in some way?

No, the devil hates everyone. Just because they are like him doesn't mean he has to like them.

Originally posted by Legend Of Chibi
No, the devil hates everyone. Just because they are like him doesn't mean he has to like them.

Again, how do you know that? Please show proof.