Originally posted by Scoobless
you know better than to ask for proof in a religion forum.... just ask him why he believes that and what (if anything) he's basing it on🙂
Is asking for proof in a religion forum like searching for positive ideas in a anti-religion forum? Because I don't think it is....
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Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I would like you to give me scripture. I bet you haven't read that book.
Do you think i have a good enough memory to memorise a book so big? I am only 14 u know, lol, it'd take more than 14 years for someone with a memory like mine to memorise it.
It talks of him in genesis and Revelations, that is all I remember.
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Originally posted by Legend Of Chibi
Do you think i have a good enough memory to memorise a book so big? I am only 14 u know, lol, it'd take more than 14 years for someone with a memory like mine to memorise it.It talks of him in genesis and Revelations, that is all I remember.
Take your time and post the answer later. That means; take some time and look up Satan in the bible (do you have one of those books that tell you were every word in the bible is located? It's a good thing to have.), and see if you can tell what Satan is like. I think that a lot of Christians do not read the bible and therefore say things that they might be wrong about. The crime that Satan did was arrogance not hate.
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Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Take your time and post the answer later. That means; take some time and look up Satan in the bible (do you have one of those books that tell you were every word in the bible is located? It's a good thing to have.), and see if you can tell what Satan is like. I think that a lot of Christians do not read the bible and therefore say things that they might be wrong about. The crime that Satan did was arrogance not hate.
If you hated someone alot, wouldn't you hate something they owned also? If you hated someone so much you'd smash their car etc
That is why he hates humans, everyone, because god made us.
Originally posted by Legend Of Chibi
He is temptation, he tempts humans to disobey god so he can watch god get upset about it, it's a spiritual thing.
god made Satan knowing that he would fall, therefore god made Satan to fall. Satan was doing gods work, it was part of god's plan. How is that not correct?
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
god made Satan knowing that he would fall, therefore god made Satan to fall. Satan was doing gods work, it was part of god's plan. How is that not correct?
God didn't make Satan fall, Satan made himself fall, if he hadn't been so jealous then he would have never been cast out. It's like right now you can do something to change the future.
Originally posted by debbiejo
If your god is that powersful, then why does he put up with it.....Kinda makes them on the same level don't you think?
So what's he going to do to the devil? He isn't going to wipe him from existance as that would be quite evil and he knows it, he is going to take down the devil fair and square.
Originally posted by Legend Of Chibi
Gods plan depends on when you're gonna die and then you're going to heaven but that's the bit you can alter.God didn't make Satan fall, Satan made himself fall, if he hadn't been so jealous then he would have never been cast out. It's like right now you can do something to change the future.
Lets say, I know that you can't resist candy. Then I go around the house and put candy every were and tell you not to take the candy. Would that be fair? No. god knows everything, he knows this from the beginning to the end of time. god knew that Satan would fall before god created Satan, so, Satan's falling was part of god's plan.
Satan was never given free will, only humans were given free will.
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
How do you know this. Please show proof.
Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a MURDERER from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. John 8:44
Originally posted by debbiejo
😂 😂 😆 😆 no no nohysterical
And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels, Revelation 12:7
And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven. Revelation 12:8
In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them. II Corinthians 4:4
And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him. Revelation 12:9
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
How do you know this. Please show proof.
Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time. Revelation 12:12
Originally posted by Scoobless
I wonder if everything i write down will be regarded as absolute fact 2000 years from now?"Dogs are just cats in disguise!" Book of Scoob, chapter #1, page #1 line #1
A philosophe can argue your point Scoobless, "Dogs have four legs and fur. Cats have four legs and fur. Therefore, Dogs and Cats are the same." 😉
Originally posted by KPrinceRevelations is a "vision" book, all in symbols....visions are always in symbols...you can't take it literally...Besides you can't be of Satan, "your father" as you quoted if god is omnipresent...
Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time. Revelation 12:12