doomsday vs king thor

Started by leonidas4 pages

<<I don't care how many times doomsday evolves... This is just beyond him. He's not beating King thor. That' slike saying if Hulk gets angry enough, he is stronger than Galactus.>>

actually, we don't KNOW what's beyond doomsday. the ultimate (so far) incarnation was powerful enough to wipe out the gl corps and battle an ARMY of gogs pulled from hypertime. his power dwarfed superman's. and we've never seen a limit to the damage the latest dd can absorb.

that said, i'd say this version of thor destroys even the latest dd -- unlike thanos (whom i think dd might beat) thor has too many abilities for dd to deal with, and i still don't know how he'd do against magic. i DO think dd would give a good accounting of himself, but this thor's to damn much.

but if he were capable of evolving from the death thor would give him, i'd LOVE to see the rematch . . .

Not sure if DD is immune to magic or not, but he is immune to chronal energy, and can in fact use the power against you like he did to Waverider.

Lobo is immune to magic though.
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Originally posted by leonidas
<<I don't care how many times doomsday evolves... This is just beyond him. He's not beating King thor. That' slike saying if Hulk gets angry enough, he is stronger than Galactus.>>

actually, we don't KNOW what's beyond doomsday. the ultimate (so far) incarnation was powerful enough to wipe out the gl corps and battle an ARMY of gogs pulled from hypertime. his power dwarfed superman's. and we've never seen a limit to the damage the latest dd can absorb.

that said, i'd say this version of thor destroys even the latest dd -- unlike thanos (whom i think dd might beat) thor has too many abilities for dd to deal with, and i still don't know how he'd do against magic. i DO think dd would give a good accounting of himself, but this thor's to damn much.

but if he were capable of evolving from the death thor would give him, i'd LOVE to see the rematch . . .

Let's assume they are 5 feet from each other when the ref says "fight!"
This is only fair to not give thor a head start to prepare.

Then the first DD that superman fought will kill king Thor ( The others aren't needed).

One must answer these questions before they can properly refute this.

1. Will thor get hit by DD? (he did by Hulk and Juggernaut many times)

2. Can Thor withstand a flurry of punches from DD? (Remember his durability is only a 5 out of 7. Superman's a 7 out of 7 and barely could. No one else could, not even Darkseid which is seemingly impossible)

"Then the first DD that superman fought will kill king Thor ( The others aren't needed"

The first Doomsday wasent much stronger than Byrne Superman who was lower in strenght than the Marvel Top tier at the time. Regular Thor would kill him, and you are using a skyfather level Thor here.

The others arent needed because he can banish each one, to a place or dimension of his liking.

"Will thor get hit by DD? (he did by Hulk and Juggernaut many times"

And now you are using regular Thor as comparation to King Thor. Yes regular Thor has been hit, he hasent however ben defeated.

"Can Thor withstand a flurry of punches from DD? (Remember his durability is only a 5 out of 7. Superman's a 7 out of 7 and barely could. No one else could, not even Darkseid which is seemingly impossible"

DOS Dooomsday yes he can.

Darkseid is a joke post crisis. Plain and simple. He hasent done anything impressive since he -was- impressive back then.

Originally posted by olympian
"Then the first DD that superman fought will kill king Thor ( The others aren't needed"

DOS Dooomsday yes he can.

The only difference between king thor and thor is that king thor has greater range of powers and more power. He still has the same durability unless he can grant himself more somehow. He cannot take a flurry of DD punches without preparation. DD's power, speed, and aggressiveness is not to be underestimated. One can see DD several blocks away and then at an instant they are getting pummeled by him. DD will kill an unprepared king thor in seconds. But if king thor is prepared then he can beat the first DD. beating others with the exception of banishing them is impossible due to DD officially power discriptions (is immune to whatever circumstance kill it)

<<1. Will thor get hit by DD? (he did by Hulk and Juggernaut many times)

2. Can Thor withstand a flurry of punches from DD? (Remember his durability is only a 5 out of 7. Superman's a 7 out of 7 and barely could. No one else could, not even Darkseid which is seemingly impossible)>.

1. yes -- if thor allows it. he could easily erect a shield or simply remove him from battle and bring him back.

2. easily. odin was effortlessly took out sswhile battling thanos without being seriously in trouble. he could CERTAINLY withstand dd's attacks then do pretty well whatever he wanted.

"The only difference between king thor and thor is that king thor has greater range of powers and more power. He still has the same durability unless he can grant himself more somehow. He cannot take a flurry of DD punches without preparation"

The -only- difference?

Are you implying then that Odin is less durable than regular Thor?

Or that a Thor with the Odinpower aka KT has the same durability than his regular self.

Or that Doomsday would win against Odin maybe?

Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
If Doomsday was immune to all energy, wouldn't he die because he has no heat and his electrons abandoned him? Or be unable to move because of the lack of kinetic energy?

This is false. what science did you study. you used bad science and bad logic. Also In comics my friend many things are not scientific.
That's why they are comics and fantasy.

King Thor blink Mangog out of existences with a word. King Thor is more like a elder god level, 7/7 intelligences, 7/7 strength, 7/7 energy projection, 7/7 durability, 7/7 speed, King Thor has father stats and much more. To think that Doomsday can beat a elder god is straight stupid, King Thor can freeze time itself even Those site above the shadows at the end where scare sh**less. Please Doomsday will die a horrible death.

King Thor cant lose this fight.

Originally posted by h1a8
This is false. what science did you study. you used bad science and bad logic.

So heat isn't energy? Having no energy doesn't mean you're frozen solid? I can understand Doomsday not needing all that much body heat but even moving creates energy.

Also In comics my friend many things are not scientific.
That's why they are comics and fantasy.

Thanks, I'll sign for that package of obvious.

I"f Doomsday was immune to all energy, wouldn't he die because he has no heat and his electrons abandoned him? Or be unable to move because of the lack of kinetic energy?

This is false. what science did you study. you used bad science and bad logic. Also In comics my friend many things are not scientific.
That's why they are comics and fantasy."

You should explain why it is false then.

Doomsday its not immune to all forms of energy. Just the ones he encountered previously, (and that defeated him iirc ?).

Like in Hunter/Prey when it was showed how he lost against Radiant.

Originally posted by leonidas
<<1. Will thor get hit by DD? (he did by Hulk and Juggernaut many times)

2. Can Thor withstand a flurry of punches from DD? (Remember his durability is only a 5 out of 7. Superman's a 7 out of 7 and barely could. No one else could, not even Darkseid which is seemingly impossible)>.

1. yes -- if thor allows it. he could easily erect a shield or simply remove him from battle and bring him back.

2. easily. odin was effortlessly took out sswhile battling thanos without being seriously in trouble. he could CERTAINLY withstand dd's attacks then do pretty well whatever he wanted.

Now your saying crazy things. Your implying Thor has as much or more durability as Superman. He's listed as a 5 in many sources. Stop being a fan for a moment and see the truth (Thor is my favorite). He can't withstand DD's attacks! If he could then Darkseid should have, Superman definately should have, Green Lantern should have, etc.

"yes--if thor allows it".

Why would thor choose to get hit multiple times by Hulk or Juggernaut?

And it is hardly believable that Thor could find the time to remove DD from battle.

The point of my 2 questions (they were rhetorical!) was to show that DD wins and there should be no more discussion.

Originally posted by olympian
I"f Doomsday was immune to all energy, wouldn't he die because he has no heat and his electrons abandoned him? Or be unable to move because of the lack of kinetic energy?

This is false. what science did you study. you used bad science and bad logic. Also In comics my friend many things are not scientific.
That's why they are comics and fantasy."

You should explain why it is false then.

Doomsday its not immune to all forms of energy. Just the ones he encountered previously, (and that defeated him iirc ?).

Like in Hunter/Prey when it was showed how he lost against Radiant.

That had to not be the DD we are disscussing (but the more weaker and intelligent one). The DD that Superman fought for the first time is the correct one. D.C. carefully explains why Superman and all others had no effect on DD (with their energy projection). They said he was defeated by a godlike being of pure energy and when DD resurrected he was immune to all energy projection. You can't call D.C. liars now.

Originally posted by olympian
"The only difference between king thor and thor is that king thor has greater range of powers and more power. He still has the same durability unless he can grant himself more somehow. He cannot take a flurry of DD punches without preparation"

The -only- difference?

Are you implying then that Odin is less durable than regular Thor?

Or that a Thor with the Odinpower aka KT has the same durability than his regular self.

Or that Doomsday would win against Odin maybe?

No ( original thor has more or equal durability as Odin) and DD would kill
Odin in seconds as well. Odin is a pure asgardian with vast magical powers nothing more. It is said by Marvel that Thor's strength, stamina, and durability exceeds that of any asgardian. They mention no exception to Odin.

Originally posted by olympian
I"f Doomsday was immune to all energy, wouldn't he die because he has no heat and his electrons abandoned him? Or be unable to move because of the lack of kinetic energy?

This is false. what science did you study. you used bad science and bad logic. Also In comics my friend many things are not scientific.
That's why they are comics and fantasy."

You should explain why it is false then.

Being immune to energy has nothing to do with heat or electrons. The burden is to prove its true. I've seen force fields and other things in the comics that can absorb any energy projection. I've also seen many things that can deflect any energy projection. From Thor's hammer to Wonder Woman's armor.

Originally posted by Never
Sorry. Did we all forget about:

"His innate ability to adapt to any situation<<<<<< has made the creature virtually immortal and prevents him from being harmed by any single attack for any significant length of time."

Anyone else want to explain how King Thor wins? Because he doesn't.

Like this:

Keep in mind, that's Desak in the Destroyer armor.

Destroyer Armor + Desak > Doomsday

After that he'll teleport Doomsday's carcas to Mephisto's realm or Dormammu's realm. DD can have fun with them.

Originally posted by Adam Warlock
Like this:

Keep in mind, that's Desak in the Destroyer armor.

Destroyer Armor + Desak > Doomsday

After that he'll teleport Doomsday's carcas to Mephisto's realm or Dormammu's realm. DD can have fun with them.


HAHAHAHAHAHA wolverine took his arm, Wolverine is effin awesome.

Originally posted by olympian
I"f Doomsday was immune to all energy, wouldn't he die because he has no heat and his electrons abandoned him? Or be unable to move because of the lack of kinetic energy?

This is false. what science did you study. you used bad science and bad logic. Also In comics my friend many things are not scientific.
That's why they are comics and fantasy."

You should explain why it is false then.

Doomsday its not immune to all forms of energy. Just the ones he encountered previously, (and that defeated him iirc ?).

Like in Hunter/Prey when it was showed how he lost against Radiant.

Okay wait a second stop the press. Doomsday possesses the ability to develop a Resistance to any power, element, energy source Whenever he reaches near death whatever killed him becomes his newest addition to his evolution factor. I remember also reading that Doomsday can negate energy effects like he did to Radiant I think he could do it to that Zzzax

<<Now your saying crazy things. Your implying Thor has as much or more durability as Superman. He's listed as a 5 in many sources. Stop being a fan for a moment and see the truth (Thor is my favorite). He can't withstand DD's attacks! If he could then Darkseid should have, Superman definately should have, Green Lantern should have, etc.

"yes--if thor allows it".

Why would thor choose to get hit multiple times by Hulk or Juggernaut?

And it is hardly believable that Thor could find the time to remove DD from battle.

The point of my 2 questions (they were rhetorical!) was to show that DD wins and there should be no more discussion.>>

you ARE kidding, right?

odin swatted ss away and OUT with a single backhand blow. it's debateable if thor could even BEAT the ss! and you're trying to tell me a skyfather has LESS durability than a top tier hero?! eer

thor himself could remove dd by opening a portal. and he HAS done that to hulk and juggs. and a number of other foes that he couldn't beat or were giving him lots of trouble one on one. and kt doesn't NEED energy. he could stop time or simply remove him as i said. he could wrap him in a cube of adamantium. cripes, there are too many ways for kt to win this fight. kt's range and scope of abilities is simply too great.

i love dd, (and have even argued FOR him against THANOS -- who is also below king thor) but i find it hilarious that you are calling me a thor fanboy. you DO understand the difference between thor and king thor, don't you . . .?

you are right in one regard, however -- there SHOULD be no more discussion.