WWII- Questions?

Originally posted by manny321
THE FACT IS THAT the allies would have lost without the soviets help and the soviets would lose if they did not have allies help. They needed each other to win. THe soviets occupied most of the German army and the allies invaded from Normandy and destroyed the resources that feed the german army. IMO the US and USSR were needed to win the war.

Yeah, weel the soviets contributed most. They woudave won without us. But after the war, it would make them really vulnerable. If they were aone in the Pacific, that's another story. As far as i can see, this discussion is about the War in Europe.

Well I guess you wouldn'T be "living" at all clovie 🤨

Originally posted by Bardock42
Well I guess you wouldn'T be "living" at all clovie 🤨

Originally posted by Clovie
EXACTLY!!!!!!!!!!!!

why didn't they make that normandy invansion earlier? 😠 maybe i'd be living in a normal country then crying

d-day was postponed for weather reasons, intended in may 1944. If they attacked in 1943, unprepared, what if they failed? then they'd be even more vulnerable. The russians arrived in poland in 1945. If th allies attacked normandy in 1943 and still succeeded, if we're using the same time-frame, they'd arrive in poland 2 years later.

What makes poland so abnormal?

it doesn't amtter when they invaded normandy. The russians got into poland quicker.

Originally posted by Frosty Beverage
d-day was postponed for weather reasons, intended in may 1944. If they attacked in 1943, unprepared, what if they failed? then they'd be even more vulnerable. The russians arrived in poland in 1945. If th allies attacked normandy in 1943 and still succeeded, if we're using the same time-frame, they'd arrive in poland 2 years later.

What makes poland so abnormal?

40 years of communist reign 😐

With friends like the soviets who needs enemies? 😄

in the name of that friendship they've been during whole that time taking stuff (eg. carbon) from here, and giving us lenin's biographies instead 😠

It seems amazing that there are so many Stalinists here. What on Earth is there to admire about someone like that?

the evilness i guess 😖

Originally posted by Clovie
they did
the deal was that it is where the armies are meeting, there the border goes
and the meeting was in Jałta (present Ukraine if i remember correctly 😕 ) not Malta 😂

and NO. it wouldn't have finnished in nuclear war. Soviets didn't have technology back then. i think that if americans did it in the right way, they've could only threaten them and there would be no big war 😕

Are you mad?

Do you know how many divisions the Red Army had in Europe?

They were Stalin's unbeatable trump card. He could have threatened US, not the other way around. As if anyone had the stomach to still fight anyway!

It is hard to counter the idea that the Russians would have destroyed the Germans single-handed. As Finti said, the Allied effort shortened the war, helped set the post-war boundaries to acceptable levels, saved half of Europe from a different sort of tyranny...

... but the Soviets WON the war, no question.

Clovie if something that serious happened 60 years ago chances are you wouldn't be alive today, your parents or your grand parents wouldn'T have met or something.

And by the way Lenin is no where as bad as stalin.

I have to admit I don'T know a lot aboot the Polish History during that time but it must have been much worse than what happened in east germany

so don't pretend to care when you have no ****ing idea.

Originally posted by Ushgarak
Are you mad?

Do you know how many divisions the Red Army had in Europe?

They were Stalin's unbeatable trump card. He could have threatened US, not the other way around. As if anyone had the stomach to still fight anyway!

It is hard to counter the idea that the Russians would have destroyed the Germans single-handed. As Finti said, the Allied effort shortened the war, helped set the post-war boundaries to acceptable levels, saved half of Europe from a different sort of tyranny...

... but the Soviets WON the war, no question.

So? I'm sorry but that's history- there was bugger all to be done about it!

nothing. i'm not happy about that history. all. **** it.

I didn'T pretend I cared for your country 🤨

I would just like to know to satisfy my thirst for knowledge.

so get a book and learn 😖

well I can talk to someone that lives there, thats a primary source its not even funny how precious that can be

so.. what d'you wanna know? 😖

well what happened during the soviet occupation of poland thqat you are so absolutely hateful aboot it?