Can You Change Reality?

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Are you telling me this because you think I don't understand the Law of Attraction? 😆

All I said was that it is outward flowing. I didn't say it isn't true, or doesn't work. The problem with ideas that are outward flowing is that they can lead to delusion if one is not careful. An idea that is inward flowing is less likely to lead to delusion.

An example would be the teachings of Jesus, which by themselves are great teachings. However, they are outward flowing and have been deluded over time. That is not to say that a teaching that is inward flowing cannot be deluded, but when one has to face ones self, it is harder to succumb to delusion.

It seems that a lot of people have taken the Law of Attraction out of proportion.

I still don't see it as "outward flowing", since the Law of Attraction claims we are all connected, and encourages you to attract like things to yourself. That would mean the environment is being drawn to you, an inward flow.

However, I do have to admit, the Law of Attraction certainly contradicts the Four Noble Truths.

The First, Dukkha, which claims that Life Is Suffering. The Law Of Attraction claims Life is whatever we make it. The second, Samudaya, teaches that Suffering springs from Desire.

While the Law of Attraction encourages Desire.

So, yes there is a contradiction between the Four Noble Truths and the Law of Attraction.

But....

If you notice, the Eight Fold Path has high similiarities with the Law of Attraction.

The Law of Attraction encourages Discipline...it encourages us to be grateful for what we already have, and to wish others only the best. It teaches us to take control of our thoughts, emotions, speech, and actions- (If you read the book, The Secret, by Rhonda Burnes, you will know what I am talking about).

Think about the Eight Fold Path:

-right view
right intention
right speech
right action
right livelihood
right effort
right mindfulness
right concentration

According to the Secret, via. Law of Attraction, to bring good things into your life, and be a fountain of good for others around you, you must hold right livelihood, you must hold right practice, and you must have a mind of pure positivity.

You are compelled to have authority over your thoughts, and the negative mindset must die.

Just remember: "Wrongful thought leads to Wrongful Action"

The Law of Attraction says that as well, but takes it a step further....

"Wrongful thoughts leads to wrongful experience".

And remember also: Buddha himself said that Everything we are now is a result of what we thought".

Shaky, check this out:

http://www.rkhawaii.org/miniseminar/everythingstarts/everythingstarts.htm

You will see parallels between the Law of Causation and the Law of Attraction.

Originally posted by SpearofDestiny
It seems that a lot of people have taken the [b]Law of Attraction out of proportion.

I still don't see it as "outward flowing", since the Law of Attraction claims we are all connected, and encourages you to attract like things to yourself. That would mean the environment is being drawn to you, an inward flow.

However, I do have to admit, the Law of Attraction certainly contradicts the Four Noble Truths.

The First, Dukkha, which claims that Life Is Suffering. The Law Of Attraction claims Life is whatever we make it. The second, Samudaya, teaches that Suffering springs from Desire.

While the Law of Attraction encourages Desire.

So, yes there is a contradiction between the Four Noble Truths and the Law of Attraction.

But....

If you notice, the Eight Fold Path has high similiarities with the Law of Attraction.

The Law of Attraction encourages Discipline...it encourages us to be grateful for what we already have, and to wish others only the best. It teaches us to take control of our thoughts, emotions, speech, and actions- (If you read the book, The Secret, by Rhonda Burnes, you will know what I am talking about).

Think about the Eight Fold Path:

-right view
right intention
right speech
right action
right livelihood
right effort
right mindfulness
right concentration

According to the Secret, via. Law of Attraction, to bring good things into your life, and be a fountain of good for others around you, you must hold right livelihood, you must hold right practice, and you must have a mind of pure positivity.

You are compelled to have authority over your thoughts, and the negative mindset must die.

Just remember: "Wrongful thought leads to Wrongful Action"

The Law of Attraction says that as well, but takes it a step further....

"Wrongful thoughts leads to wrongful experience".

And remember also: Buddha himself said that Everything we are now is a result of what we thought". [/B]

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Originally posted by debbiejo
Someone finially understands what I've been talking about.

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Don't jump the gun, Deb. 😆

Originally posted by debbiejo
Someone finially understands what I've been talking about.

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Yes 😄

Shaky, did you respond to my above posts ?

Originally posted by SpearofDestiny
Yes 😄

Shaky, did you respond to my above posts ?

Not responding is also responding. 😉

What did you want me to say? If you look at the Law of Attraction in an inward flowing way, then I don't have a problem. However, in most modern New Age religions that I have been exposed too, it is explained in an outward flowing way.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Not responding is also responding. 😉

What did you want me to say? If you look at the Law of Attraction in an inward flowing way, then I don't have a problem. However, in most modern New Age religions that I have been exposed too, it is explained in an outward flowing way.

The Law of Attraction is neutral to good/evil, selflessness/selfishness.

Anyone has the potential to use the Law of Attraction to thier advantage, whether they have selfless or selfish intentions. It's not about something getting what they deserve, it's about one creating thier lifestory through thier realms of focus.

Originally posted by SpearofDestiny
The [b]Law of Attraction is neutral to good/evil, selflessness/selfishness.

Anyone has the potential to use the Law of Attraction to thier advantage, whether they have selfless or selfish intentions. It's not about something getting what they deserve, it's about one creating thier lifestory through thier realms of focus. [/B]

I understand the Law of Attraction.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I understand the Law of Attraction.

I know, but I'm trying to make you understand that aspects of it are in sync with concepts of Buddhism, and even other religiouns/philosophies. Like Debbiejo said.

Originally posted by SpearofDestiny
I know, but I'm trying to make you understand that aspects of it are in sync with concepts of Buddhism, and even other religiouns/philosophies. Like Debbiejo said.

I understand that too. However, some of the teachings of Jesus sync with concepts of Buddhism also. Do you understand how Law of Attraction can be outward flowing? The first time I heard about the Law of Attraction, it was presented as a way to change the world to get what you want. That is outward flowing too me.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I understand that too. However, some of the teachings of Jesus sync with concepts of Buddhism also. Do you understand how Law of Attraction can be outward flowing? The first time I heard about the Law of Attraction, it was presented as a way to change the world to get what you want. That is outward flowing too me.

I understand, but I get my information from a book I read called "The Secret", and other various sources I have discovered.

What I am taught is that we are all connected, and that the mind has massive power.

I have not yet read that you can change the world. In the Secret, it clearly states you cannot decide the life state of another person. Only yourself. To change the world to your liking, also means to take control of other people's lives.

That is incorrect.

The Law of Attraction does not allow anyone to control the life or mind of another. It doesn't give or have that power.

Originally posted by SpearofDestiny
I understand, but I get my information from a book I read called "The Secret", and other various sources I have discovered.

What I am taught is that we are all connected, and that the mind has massive power.

I have not yet read that you can change the world. In the Secret, it clearly states you cannot decide the life state of another person. Only yourself. To change the world to your liking, also means to take control of other people's lives.

That is incorrect.

The [b]Law of Attraction does not allow anyone to control the life or mind of another. It doesn't give or have that power. [/B]

Well, I am glad there is an inward flowing vertion of the Law of Attraction.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Well, I am glad there is an inward flowing vertion of the Law of Attraction.

I don't understand how the Law of Attraction can be used to change the rest of the world. I have no power over another person's life. Only the power they allow me to have.

Originally posted by SpearofDestiny
I don't understand how the Law of Attraction can be used to change the rest of the world. I have no power over another person's life. Only the power they allow me to have.

Can you feel someone else's vibrations from a distance?

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Can you feel someone else's vibrations from a distance?

What do you mean ? Someone I am not aware of ?

Originally posted by SpearofDestiny
What do you mean ? Someone I am not aware of ?

Can you read another person's mind?

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Can you read another person's mind?

now there a scary thought.

I don't believe that is part of the Law of Attraction.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Can you read another person's mind?

I've never done it. I don't think I can. What are you trying to get at ?

Originally posted by SpearofDestiny
I've never done it. I don't think I can. What are you trying to get at ?

Just seeing what you believe.