The X-Men rock! But they were created for a different purpose, for a different audience. They're more gritty and realistic, focussed less on sheer power and more on character development.
Facts is facts, and the JLA are unbe-smegging-lievably powerful.... the X-Team simply can't win this, not without somem MAJOR coincedences. Such as Beast discovering K-Nite, lol!
Fantastically told story though, Khell! Top notch. 🙂
in theory the JLA should beat the Xmen...in theory unless like illadelph12 mention...remy go new son on them...and if god like Cable and dark Phoenix joined the fray..the JLA would really have to hustle to get a victory....if Remy, Nathan and Jean "powered up" I do believe this could "even the playing feild"..so to speak.
Yeah, I'm sure we could take the core seven JLA and ASSEMBLE a team of X-men to take them out - IF we could choose versions of the X-men (New Son Gambit, Shaman Nate, God Cable, Magneto, Phoenix Jean, Phoenix Rachael, God Iceman, Onslaught Xavier, etc.).
In fact, I'd say that's a more interesting challenge...
the supreme Xmen could take them...it'd come down to one factor...Batman and his plan...I know batman lacks powers but often when strenght won't be enough to get a victory Superman and the JLA look to batman for a plan. Batman is the glue that holds the JLA together..but it have to be one hell of plan to take down the "supreme Xmen". Gambit, Nate, Cable, Magneto, P Jean, P Racheal, God Iceman, Onslaught Xavier, and what the hell throw in Mr. Sinster and Apoc...that should give the uncanny one more than enough mutant juice to beat the JLA and the JSA.
"Oh, wait, here is another solution.
Superman lifts the X-Mansion and throws it into space. There."
lol. That's awesome...
"Yeah, I'm sure we could take the core seven JLA and ASSEMBLE a team of X-men to take them out - IF we could choose versions of the X-men (New Son Gambit, Shaman Nate, God Cable, Magneto, Phoenix Jean, Phoenix Rachael, God Iceman, Onslaught Xavier, etc.).
In fact, I'd say that's a more interesting challenge..."
From what I've heard about some of these 'powered up' xmen, wouldnt they destroy the JLA, or anyone for that matter.
The JLA wins this.
Hey, while we're adding/choosing different versions, why not get the JLA from the future (DC 1M) plus Sups Prime in there...
Originally posted by Jamaican
"Oh, wait, here is another solution.Superman lifts the X-Mansion and throws it into space. There."
lol. That's awesome...
"Yeah, I'm sure we could take the core seven JLA and ASSEMBLE a team of X-men to take them out - IF we could choose versions of the X-men (New Son Gambit, Shaman Nate, God Cable, Magneto, Phoenix Jean, Phoenix Rachael, God Iceman, Onslaught Xavier, etc.).
In fact, I'd say that's a more interesting challenge..."From what I've heard about some of these 'powered up' xmen, wouldnt they destroy the JLA, or anyone for that matter.
The JLA wins this.
Hey, while we're adding/choosing different versions, why not get the JLA from the future (DC 1M) plus Sups Prime in there...
No one is adding characters to my thread. Keep an open mind. Their already quite a few obstacles in the way of the JLA. Since the X-team have bunch of psychics/telepath's they could very well see the JLA coming. This battle could be a lot closer than most of you think. So no supes 1 million, no prime, no Dark Phoenix, No New Sun(Theoretically Gambit is New Sun, and whose powers he could max out if he knew it was life and death), No Magneto, and no future JLA.
Strength wise, the JLA are true winners. while the X-team dominate the board in telepath's, telekinetics, and psionics.
Wait a minute, I think we're getting a little ahead of ourselves here. The scenario was already laid out.
Sentry already established that Supes drills through the ground into the hangar, he doesn't toss the mansion.
He already established that Batman only knows about Charles, Colossus, Kitty, Kurt, and the original X men (Ice, Cyc, Beast, Angel, Jean), and that Bat's is under the assumption that the institute is a school for mutants.
Batman doesn't know that the lower levels are the base of operations for the X-men, he thinks it's a boarding school for mutants.
Batman doesn't know Jean has/had access to the Phoenix force.
Batman doesn't know of X-Force, X Factor, or Excalibur.
Batman doesn't know of Gambit's alternate self coming and showing him his full potential as New Son.
Batman doesn't know of how powerful Cable has become, or that he, and all of the other X telepaths are even going to be there or what they are capable of.
Batman doesn't know Longshot can alter probabilities and have the JLA at a disadvantage from the start.
And that's all in current Marvel continuity, not future timelines.
The JLA are coming into the confrontation assuming to only have to deal with the original X men, Shadowcat, Nightcrawler, and Colossus. They'd be caught off guard.
Re: X-team VS. JLA and the JSA
Originally posted by Sentry
Can the combined might of the JLA and JSA take on Xmen/Xforce/Xfactor/Excalibur?Here is the X roster:
Cyclops
Jean Grey
Emma Frost
Colossus
Rogue
Beast
Forge
Storm
Warpath
Northstar
Cable
Polaris
Magma
Iceman
Gambit
Wolverine
Captain Britain(with Excalibur and Amulet of right)
Meggan
Archangel
Banshee
Nightcrawler
Professor X
Havok
Bishop
Random
Shadowcat
Dazzler
Cannonball
Sunfire
Strong Guy
Shatterstar
Psylocke
Chamber
Jubilee
Longshot
MarrowVS.
Current JLA & JSA(NOT PRE-CRISIS):
Superman
Flash
Batman
Wonder Woman
Firestorm
Aqua man
Green Lantern(Kyle)
Steel
Martian Manhunter
Shazam
Powergirl
Sentinel
Obsidian
Jakeem Thunder
Star Spangled Kid
Black Canary
Hawkman
Hawkgirl
Mr. Terrific
Faith(Telepath, not Dr. Fayt)Scenario: JLA and The JSA have been commissioned by the government to hunt and capture down mutants. Batman learns that the Charles Xavier Institute is really a school for mutants. He does his research on the five founding members of the Xmen, Professor x, and few xmen members, Colossus, Kitty Pryde(Shadowcat), and Nightcrawler.
He gathers members of the JLA and the JSA as back up and storm the place, deep into the mansion via Superman digging an underground tunnel, they pop out in the hangar bypassing most of the institute's security. As soon as they hit the hangar, little do they know, they stormed the place during a mutant gathering, a reunion of sorts of Xavier's current and former students. There Professor X is giving a speech on how the war with humans can be avoided to his xmen and the other mutants Charles has helped along the way. The battle starts in the hanger.Why are the rosters so lopsided, is because even though it's post crisis, the JLA and JSA are uber powerful. Base line DC heroes are a bit more powerful than their marvel counterparts which are steeped in a little more realism. Well other than that, let the battle begin.
We have also forgot that the X-Men doesn't know about the attack in the mansion, and therefore are unable to react when Superman drills through the ground with lightning speed.
In my original post there, I never said that the X-team didn't know about the attack. They are psychic, and could have very well forseen their coming disaster. Then again you could be right, they didn't know they were coming. This fight is a lot a closer than people think, and it seems their are more people who agree with me on this.
"Hey, while we're adding/choosing different versions, why not get the JLA from the future (DC 1M) plus Sups Prime in there..."
That was sarcasm.
"Batman learns that the Charles Xavier Institute is really a school for mutants. He does his research on the five founding members of the Xmen, Professor x, and few xmen members, Colossus, Kitty Pryde(Shadowcat), and Nightcrawler."
I know this is YOUR thread and YOUR story, but don't you think it would be very unlike Bruce to not get the blueprints, find any available openings/exits, rooms. Also I think he would do his homework on more than just the 5 founding members (plus the others you mentioned). I think he would find out exactly who at least lives/practices there at the mansion? Especially those more dangerous and well known mutants such as Cable, Gambit etc.
Originally posted by Jamaican
I know this is YOUR thread and YOUR story, but don't you think it would be very unlike Bruce to not get the blueprints, find any available openings/exits, rooms. Also I think he would do his homework on more than just the 5 founding members (plus the others you mentioned). I think he would find out exactly who at least lives/practices there at the mansion? Especially those more dangerous and well known mutants such as Cable, Gambit etc.
Originally posted by Khellendros
Actually, if the world has gotten so hostile that the government is hiring other superhumans like the JLA to round up mutants, then Xavier would just hack into computers and minds and wipe all public knowledge and records of the mansion from existance. Even if he could find blueprints on the school, there's no way Xavier would have filed plans and blueprints for the underground levels with the city or something. He would have jsut ahd the crewes construct it and then wiped their minds.