FF vs. JLA 4 on 4

Which team comes out the victor in this fight. There is no prep time in this fight so lets say that they get transported into one or the others universe and fight not knowing anything about eachother.

Team one: The Fantastic Four

Team two: JLA (Firestorm, GL(Hal), Flash and Martian Manhunter.

I really dont know who would win right now. Lets just see how this debate goes.

flash can hit sue faster than she can think, then the others mop up the rest...

jla wins...

That sounds kinda easy victory. The FF will put up a better fight than that I hope.

well either mm or flash can take sue out very quickly...

hal can take torch and thing on his own imo...

JLA. Pretty easily. FF's got nothing for them but Sue. Once Sue goes down...that's it.

Odd how Galactus should technically...given all those POWERS, have had something to stop them as well. Coulda probably created Flash I'm thinking.

The FF can't beat Galactus straight up. MAYBE if he's starving and about to die. Otherwise, there's no way. None.

What is 'straight up'. He had a purpose, they stopped it one way or another, ie they got the job done.

No biggie.

Originally posted by Victor Von Doom
What is 'straight up'. He had a purpose, they stopped it one way or another, ie they got the job done.

No biggie.

They can beat Galactus. Can you deny that fact? No.

What makes you think they couldn't beat the JLA then?

-AC

Me either.

Let's continue shall we.

Although it has been said to be able to obliterate anything. So I don't know who to believe.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
They can beat Galactus. Can you deny that fact? No.

What makes you think they couldn't beat the JLA then?

-AC

simple, this is a straight fight...

given each members abilities the jla are superior...

Well if Reed carries that in his back pocket then they win 😆

Originally posted by Victor Von Doom
What is 'straight up'. He had a purpose, they stopped it one way or another, ie they got the job done.

No biggie.

ok, but that doesn't mean they can physically defeat Galactus. Saying that the FF can foil his plans as evidence that they could physically defeat the JLA is meaningless. Unless the thread is: "Can the FF ruin the JLA's Thankgiving feast?" in which case I might answer yes...

"simple, this is a straight fight...given each members abilities the jla are superior..."

Haha. Why is it?

Why do you have the right to rule out something the F4 could use to win? Why are you assuming both teams show up with sleeves rolled to their elbows, ready to fist fight?

If the F4 are fighting the JLA, they'll wanna win. They'll find a way to do so.

"ok, but that doesn't mean they can physically defeat Galactus. Saying that the FF can foil his plans as evidence that they could physically defeat the JLA is meaningless. Unless the thread is: "Can the FF ruin the JLA's Thankgiving feast?" in which case I might answer yes..."

Yeah but if they can find a way to beat a bordeline omnipotent, they can beat a bunch of heroes.

-AC

Originally posted by demigawd
ok, but that doesn't mean they can physically defeat Galactus.

No-one suggested that it was. Do go on.

Originally posted by demigawd
Saying that the FF can foil his plans as evidence that they could physically defeat the JLA is meaningless.

Not quite, I see the point you are proving, although it was of your own creation. So I'll ignore it.

Originally posted by demigawd
Unless the thread is: "Can the FF ruin the JLA's Thankgiving feast?" in which case I might answer yes...

Confer 'meaningless' comment.

But Time is something they dont have.

Well, the last time they beat Galactus, they had Quasar, Johnny as a Herald, who used his cosmic awareness to come up with a plan to suck away G's power.

The time before that, they had several cosmic beings and G was crazy.

The time before that, they had several members of the Avengers with them.

So unless you're saying the FF get all of that in their fight, I say it's not happening.

But...I guess it's worth asking -- any stips? Prep time? Battlefield? Or are we going with default rules?

Originally posted by Victor Von Doom
No-one suggested that it was. Do go on.

If by "no-one" you mean "you", then yeah I agree.

Your comment, sir:

"Odd how Galactus should technically...given all those POWERS, have had something to stop them as well. Coulda probably created Flash I'm thinking."

Anything else you'd like to retract?

Why does every FF thread turn into "prep time" threads? Sure Reed is smart but is he smarter than MM? Lets stick with stated rules.