Hawkman vs. Spider-Man

Started by -K-M-8 pages

Alright folks, since Mindset knew he put himself in a corner I will explain what happened in the issue

Amazing Spider-Man #57 (Vol.2)
For those who haven't read it, Spider-Man literally fought maybe 6-10 Mindless Ones at once and literally was defeated in a few seconds time (literally). He would have been killed until Thing saved him. He then fought a few more (3-4) and then left to save a girl and didn't return to the fight again in the issue. No where was he close to fighting thousands of enemies himself nor was he close to beating them.

Amazing Spider-Man #58 (Vol.2)
Once again Spider-Man doesn't fight thousands, he throws a car at 4-5 Mindless Ones when they werent expecting it, he then saved the cilviains, swung over top of the battle going on below, and then when he gets into the battle one Mindless One hits him into Dr.Strange while he is casting the spell sending him into dream land. He then swings some boulders against 3 Mindless Ones, and then with the same boulders swings it around hitting maybe 5-6

Contrary to what Mindset said their not comporable in the least. He didn't fight thousands, he didn't beat any of them, and he nearly died in the first encounter.

Sorry, not what happened.

Once again you're being a troll, that is exactly what happened.

I'm going to have to disagree, friend.

Originally posted by -K-M-
He didn't fight thousands, he didn't beat any of them, and he nearly died in the first encounter.

sounds about the same to me. nice job mindset. 👆

Originally posted by leonidas
sounds about the same to me. nice job mindset. 👆

What would happen if Spider man webbed up Hawkmans wings? Or his entire frame? If this happened would Hawkman lack the leverage to continue?

Spiderman would combo to ko.

Hawkman and Hawkgirl can fly without their wings due to overexposure to nth metal.

Also there is nth metal in their belts which Hawkgirl used to fly even when she wasnt using her wings.

Hawkman's wings don't actually flap to allow him to fly.

Originally posted by -K-M-
Hawkman and Hawkgirl can fly without their wings due to overexposure to nth metal.

Also there is nth metal in their belts which Hawkgirl used to fly even when she wasnt using her wings.

Hawkman's wings don't actually flap to allow him to fly.

What about if he was fully webbed up? I mean from head to toe.

Originally posted by Stoic
What about if he was fully webbed up? I mean from head to toe.

Then he would have to use one of his many blades to cut himself out, and we know the webbing is weak to blades. He could still float or fly even webbed up though.

Originally posted by -K-M-
Then he would have to use one of his many blades to cut himself out, and we know the webbing is weak to blades. He could still float or fly even webbed up though.

So do you believe that Spider Man has little to no chance of defeating Hawkman? I could see Spider Man webbing him up head to toe, and doing a wrecking ball routine on him. Also how would he be able to reach for anything if his arms were bound and his hands were bound to the point that reaching for a blade was not an option? Those webs are pretty strong, and Hawkman isn't unstoppable.

Oh no Spider-Man can definetly win, but I could see a push (tie) or slight edge to either one depending on the era for the characters. Also Hawkman definetly isn't unstopable, he is just extremely hard to put down especially thanks to his healing factor (ie. instantly healed a slit throat in seconds). Even Black Adam pounding on him didn't stop him.

Originally posted by -K-M-
Oh no Spider-Man can definetly win, but I could see a push (tie) or slight edge to either one depending on the era for the characters. Also Hawkman definetly isn't unstopable, he is just extremely hard to put down especially thanks to his healing factor (ie. instantly healed a slit throat in seconds). Even Black Adam pounding on him didn't stop him.

OK because in that respect we're on the same page. I could see this going either way. I favor Spidey a bit more but whatever.

I'm with KM here....very close fight, but 6/10 to Hawkman.

I'd have to say spiderman. IMO you have to very clearly have spider-man outgunned to get a majority from him. I'd give any kind of close matchup to him. He's just too smart, too good.

Spider-man wins via webbing and being faster.

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Originally posted by -K-M-
instantly healed a slit throat in seconds

I think your dictionary and my dictionary have different definitions of "instantly"

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Originally posted by -K-M-
Agile sure, but faster? Definetly not.

Yes actually (shot was coming from behind him too), and yes again. He has even gone lightspeed while toying a spaceship in space. As I said has beaten several big name speedsters, Spider-Man is not going to be faster then him.

Ok, have you seen how Hawkman has dealt with Superman, Black Adam, Despero, Wonder Woman, etc? Hawkman is a battle tested character, while Spider-Man throughout his career has struggled with skilled hand to hand combatents. Even Jigsaw broke his arm fairly easily.

Could Spider-Man do something like this? The answer is no
1. http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p68/DCHawks_photo/hm-47-003.jpg
2. http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p68/DCHawks_photo/hm-47-004.jpg
3. http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p68/DCHawks_photo/hm-47-005.jpg
4. http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p68/DCHawks_photo/hm-47-006.jpg
5. http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p68/DCHawks_photo/hm-47-007.jpg

Those are great feats and im glad youre working to give Hawkman the respect he deserves but there's no need to lowball his opponent. Jigsaw? Not a battle tested character?
Jigsaw never broke Spider-man's arm during a fight. Also it was later confirmed that it wasnt supposed to be Jigsaw at all but a villain with super strength, artists mistake. Makes sense concidering Spider-man oneshotted the actual Jigsaw several issues later. And even if that was Jigsaw dont you think that should be disregarded as PIS? Looking at all the times Spider-man supported building, lifted cars, cought falling helicopters etc but gets his hand snapped by a human?
As for battles.. Superman, Ww is great but do I really have to make the list of characters Spider-man fought and bested? As for skilled opponents You know as well as i do that Spider-man suffers from CIS a lot. And those same skilled fighter he normally struggles against get either oneshotted or humiliated the second the kid gloves are off. That goes for Kingpin, Bullseye, Taskmaster, Daredevil etc etc etc Even before Spider-man recieved his training he was easilly capable of holding his own against skilled fighters even the one with comparable physical stats. Heck Spider-man while holding back danced around an amped blood lusted Shang Chi. Who on top of all his skills also had superhuman strength and speed and was going for the kill.
That said, im not educated enough on HM so undesided on this fight but give all the characters the respect their due, not just the ones youre arguing for.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I'm with KM here....very close fight, but 6/10 to Hawkman.

👆 I can see this going either way, really.