Superman and Flash vs Jugs , and Hulk

Until you can prove that he can, it is your opinion (and opinion alone,) that he can vibrate through people. Let's work on facts please.

There is a certainly a limit to what he can detonate, he can't even vibrate through very dense matter. No, Hulk's body isn't made of adamantium, but it is incredibly dense, and it is also described as "virtually indestructable." If Flash has a hard time vibrating through dense matter, what makes you think he can vibrate through Hulk? Or Juggernaut?

Hulk has never said "I can't fly," but he does something very similar; he can jump into the stratosphere, or further, and he can cover miles in a single, casual jump. That's alot like flying isn't it? Does that mean he can fly? Of course not, because he has never flown. The same logic holds true for Flash. A person is not a object, it is an organism. There is a big difference between making an object explode and making an organism explode, one of them being the apparently drastic varience of Flash's power level. If he can make objects explode, he's powerful. If he can make ANYTHING explode, he's virtually unbeatable.

Until you prove that Flash can vibrate through an organism and cause it to explode, don't use the argument.

man hulk and juggy would win easy hulk beat superman and flash cant hurt juggy so i have to say hulk and juggy man i hate superman anyway
superman hella gay he's hecca stronge but his worst enemiey is a rich white guy that tells on people hulk fight people like abomination rhino and wendigo loo superman would last 1 minutes atbthe most

Originally posted by black wolverine
man hulk and juggy would win easy hulk beat superman and flash cant hurt juggy so i have to say hulk and juggy man i hate superman anyway
superman hella gay he's hecca stronge but his worst enemiey is a rich white guy that tells on people hulk fight people like abomination rhino and wendigo loo superman would last 1 minutes atbthe most

What?!? 😆

i would have to agree on the with the logic of cosmic cube. pulling this "he can vibrate through stuff, so he can vibrate through people" argument makes very, very, very little sense. aside from scientific inconsistencies, it is stupid to give someone a power they have never demonstrated because it is a "logical" extension of powers they have shown.

but this infinite mass punch thing, though similarly illogical, should swing the fight in the favor of superman and flash.

though if you look at juggy's supposed powers, and disregard his inconsistent showings, he should win for team marvel anyway.

" Eventually, (after a long ass time) he'll be knocked out, and then it's Juggernaut and Hulk vs. Superman. If not, Superman will be felled first by both Hulk and Juggernaut, and it's Flash vs. Hulk and Juggernaut. Either way, Hulk and Juggy win."

Even if Flash couldn't do anything to hurt them, what makes you think he'll tire before Juggs and Hulk do? I'm sure (although it wont do alot of damage), him hitting them will wear them more than him. I don't see them even being able to touch him, let alone even see him. Plus, Supes can move at what is it, close to light speed? If both of them were to be moving at their top speeds, the fight would prob. be over in a very very short time. Plus if Supes was to use all of his powers (which you barely ever see him do) and was to go all out on them, relentlessly, I don't even think that Hulk and Juggs would stand a chance. I'm not a fanboy of Supes (despite the graphic on my tags), but if you seriously consider the amount of powers/things that Superman can do alone, this fight is kind of redundant. Let alone you're adding someone that can move faster than Supes helping...

if nothing else the flash could lend his speed to superman making him even faster.

Originally posted by hoorayforpeepee
i would have to agree on the with the logic of cosmic cube. pulling this "he can vibrate through stuff, so he can vibrate through people" argument makes very, very, very little sense. aside from scientific inconsistencies, it is stupid to give someone a power they have never demonstrated because it is a "logical" extension of powers they have shown.

but this infinite mass punch thing, though similarly illogical, should swing the fight in the favor of superman and flash.

though if you look at juggy's supposed powers, and disregard his inconsistent showings, he should win for team marvel anyway.

And its not stupid to say thats its a fact that they cant? It is a logical extension of a known power so you cannot completely disregard it. These are comics scientific inconsistencies are to be expected.

I don't know what trip I was on, but now that I rethink things, Superman and Flash manage a win. It would be extremely difficult for Juggernaut or Hulk to hit Flash, and he's got Superman backing him up.

They may be in for a hard fight, but Superman and Flash will eventually pull out a win.

I was just arguing that Flash could not make Hulk or Juggy explode.

and I agree he cant.

Yes, it is very illogical to amplify a characters power without the say-so of the writers. Flash has never demonstrated the power, so as of right now, or until the writer say he possesses it, he does not possess such a power. The moment Flash vibrates through someone and makes them explode in a comic book, I, and everyone else will accept the fact that yes, he can vibrate through people and make them explode. Until then, he does not posses such power. Not so tough logic, eh?

Ok.

whoah I still think he can vibrate through ppl just not hulk or jugg.

Sigh... Ok, I guess that's fair.

You're entitled to your opinion, you just shouldn't use your opinion when debating a character's abilities in a thread. That's gotta be facts.

Regardless, Superman and Flash will pull through.

"you just shouldn't use your opinion when debating a character's abilities in a thread"

Almost impossible I think.

"Regardless, Superman and Flash will pull through."

Yes they will.

One thing I haven't seen mentioned is that Juggernaut's powers are magic-based. Supes, in theory, should be really weak against his attacks then, which adds another layer to the fight.

And I'd be disinclined to believe any "Flash exploding objects/people/etc" theories unless someone can cite me an issue where it happens.

Given these two points, I'd vote for team Marvel.
-DM

Good point. Juggernaut's strength is magical in nature. Who's to say one punch from Juggernaut won't send Superman packing?

Isn't that the reason Captain Marvel can beat him? Magic in power and all.

doesnt matter he wouldnt be able to land a punch.

On Superman? Why not?

even the slowest fu@kes has hit superman.

doesn't make sence but they did