The THING VS. The Abomination

Abomination believe it or not isnt that high in the class 100 stakes. He's not stronger than the likes of thor, she hulk or hercules and while he's stronger than the thing the strength difference isnt significant enough for things superior fighting skills to not gain him a win.

When new enemies are introduced they are always made out to be soo much more of a threat to heroes than they actually are or will be shown to be later on down the line. Do you lot all remmeber rogues1st appearances. She took on the avengers singlehandedly. She later went on to rock the x-men taking the full brunt of storms lightning. Now that just wouldnt and couldnt happen. In the beginning Ab was hulks nemesis and he'd get the better of hulk in their initial encounters. It was his ferocity and cunning in battle which made him so dangerous to the hulk Now however he is nothing to the hulk, just like titania is now nothing to she hulk. Abomination just like collossus and namor has only recently made it into class 100. Before recent times he was considered just below that class because he could not routinely press 100 tons.

thing can lift around 85 tons and abomination can lift around 200 tons. a punch from thing wont hurt him but a punch from abomination would kill the thing

Originally posted by WOLVERINEFAN
thing can lift around 85 tons and abomination can lift around 200 tons. a punch from thing wont hurt him but a punch from abomination would kill the thing

Not quite right. Dont always listen to figures spouted around on these forums. Most of the time theyre not actually right. Judge for yourself from reading Marvels official bios and all of the relevant characters comic appearances

Someone said that the 200 tons figure was a one off due to external influence.

He was in his very first appearance. He was class 200 ( twice hulks strengh ) and handle him his ass.

Nowadays he seems a solid class 100 guy with ben being a low class 100 too.

I give this to Ben, more figthing spirit, strong enough to go with it and alot more skill than Abom.

all u need is size and strength in this battle

"Someone said that the 200 tons figure was a one off due to external influence."

yeah that was on another appearance, maybe it was the Leader who augment his strengh to class 200 again?

I think thats when Hulk started to beat him all the time and the jobbing started...😛

It will be tough for Thing to wins this one...not only is Abomination stronger he is also faster...the only thing this fight will last is because Thing is more of a skilled fighter, and he doesn't give up that easy..but when it's all said and done Abom wins this one just by outlasting the Thing...

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Someone said that the 200 tons figure was a one off due to external influence.

It was me 😛

Yeah it was outside influence. Ab was augmented by the galaxy master who wanted hulk dealt with. This instance and only this instance was abomination twice as strong as the hulk. Hulk was losing obviously until he got mad and as usual he thrashed abomination after his anger made up for the difference.

I think that one instance has confused quite a few people on this forum.

Abomination is stronger than a calm hulk who starts off at around classs 75 with abs being class 100. He is not under his own power and never has been twice as strong as the hulk

Abomination is beyound class 100 in strength level...its true according to Marvel Encyc...my favorite resource for this kind of facts.

Originally posted by shaolin9976
Abomination is beyound class 100 in strength level...its true according to Marvel Encyc...my favorite resource for this kind of facts.

Three is no beyond class 100 level my friend. Everyone who can lift in excess of 100 tons is put in class 100 where abomination is, just like i said earlier

That's what I mean..he can lift more than 100 tons...so you can put him in that class...excuse me for my raw knowledge of classes.

Originally posted by shaolin9976
That's what I mean..he can lift more than 100 tons...so you can put him in that class...excuse me for my raw knowledge of classes.

Nah its cool

I did actually say in one of my posts that ab has recently made it into class 100 wheras before he was just outside it because he couldnt routinely press 100 tons

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
It was me 😛

Yeah it was outside influence. Ab was augmented by the galaxy master who wanted hulk dealt with. This instance and only this instance was abomination twice as strong as the hulk. Hulk was losing obviously until he got mad and as usual he thrashed abomination after his anger made up for the difference.

I think that one instance has confused quite a few people on this forum.

Abomination is stronger than a calm hulk who starts off at around classs 75 with abs being class 100. He is not under his own power and never has been twice as strong as the hulk

Originally posted by K3VIL
In his last fight with Hulk, he showed his own pretty well until he pissed off him talkin of Betty, it' obvious he was back to near 200 tons lifting abilities from what he was doing to Hulk

Just Speculation which has no place here. Many people have had the upper hand in battle with hulk until his anger granted him sufficient strength to deal with the situation. Until its stated by marvel you cant just assume he can lift 200 tons again because he does well in a fight with the hulk. Thats ridiculous. So has the thing and he's class 85.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Just Speculation which has no place here. Many people have had the upper hand in battle with hulk until his anger granted him sufficient strength to deal with the situation. Until its stated by marvel you cant just assume he can lift 200 tons again because he does well in a fight with the hulk. Thats ridiculous. So has the thing and he's class 85.

Originally posted by K3VIL
The Thing made the Hulk bleeding?
When?

Abominations stronger than thing so of course he's going to do more damage in a fight. Come on K3 thats to be expected. Its still really naive and quite unfounded to state on these forums that abomination can now suddenly lift 200 tons cos he does well in a fight with hulk.

But didnt the hulk won that fight where he was enchanted by the galaxy master?

Dang this class thing sometimes is confusing, as far as im concerned anyone who can lift above 100 tons should be able to lift anything earth based.

And i still give it to Ben. handbooks aside in comics he has been portraited as a very low class 100. Perhaps between the 95-100 range more like it. And Abom in this fight isent in his original 200 class but average ( right? )

Strengh, heart and skill goes to the Thing.

Im guessing it wasnt actually stated that abomination could lift 200 tons in the begining was it K3? Thats just a figure you've come up with because in his initial encounter he was stronger than the hulk . Well until hulk got angry that is.

Fair enough if you want to use that figure for when Ab was doubled in strength by the GM but why state false figures on this forum for others to pick up and use as if theyre fact.

I'm assuming that.
Abomination in his first appearence beat the crap outta Hulk.
So happened in the last, he dominated for most of the fight.
Until he started talking about Betty's death, causing Hulk to get so mad he reduced his face to a chunk of flesh and skin and throwed him against a helycopter.
Abomination's strenght fluctuates based on the use the writers wanna make with him.
Thing is not a Class 100 or 95.Marvel never stated that.