Originally posted by Khellendros
Doom can [b]try strangling or beating Bish up, but it's not going to be easy. Like I said, Bishop knowns tactics for countering almost any super power, super strength included, and he's a damn good fighter. [/B]
What if he just grabs him in the throat and crushes it.
(Hr has class 2 strenght)
Originally posted by DarkCrawler
What if he just grabs him in the throat and crushes it.(Hr has class 2 strenght)
Why the f*&^K are most of the Xmen like upgraded to stupid levels.
Expecting????? Just like VVD just mentioned, why can't he just expect an assault all the time and therefore be invincible???
That's why I stopped buying Xmen. They are getting ridiculous. 10 years ago you would see or read that Logan could slash IM with one hit and disable him. Now he is jumping off of stuff killing dozens, doing stunts that are DD level and beating a powerhouse like IM. Xmen suck period!!
Originally posted by Victor Von Doom
I don't buy this. It's almost as dubious as Doomsday's alleged power.If he can block anything he's expecting: why not just expect everything all the time? How do we define expecting? Physically anticipating the specific attack? What about a machine gun? Surely he isn't anticipating each bullet, so he's just generally anticipating the attack: again, why not always anticipate everything?
Another case of X-Men upgrading going past the point of credulity I feel.
Unless anyone has a proper explanation of how the power functions.
Originally posted by Zahit
Doom's armor under normal conditions can lift 2 tons. I'm assuming he
can boost this for brief periods as needed.
Furthermore let's argue that Bishop has his "expectations powers" at full blast. How is someone as proficient in the art of magic and hexes as Victor cannot defeat him? We are assuming that magic obeys by the same laws as kinetic energy? Magic may obey by certain laws but it's nothing scientific therefore it's safe to assume that Doom would realize who he is up against and switch to his magic. As a last resort, Doom could also just preprogam his armor to detonate at maximum level within a certain amount of time and transport himself out of it while he witnesses Bishop's body limbs go flying.
Originally posted by LordFear
Furthermore let's argue that Bishop has his "expectations powers" at full blast. How is someone as proficient in the art of magic and hexes as Victor cannot defeat him? We are assuming that magic obeys by the same laws as kinetic energy? Magic may obey by certain laws but it's nothing scientific therefore it's safe to assume that Doom would realize who he is up against and switch to his magic. As a last resort, Doom could also just preprogam his armor to detonate at maximum level within a certain amount of time and transport himself out of it while he witnesses Bishop's body limbs go flying.
Originally posted by DarkCrawler
When he has used all his energy, he is normal human. Doom still has his armor.
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
I'm waiting for the day that Professor X's becomes both the world's best martial artist and break dancer in one.Not much of a change in X-Men terms.
-AC
Don't you people see what I and several other members are trying to say? We are arguing how a simple man like Bishop albeit powerful in his own rights but yet a fairly one dimensional character is boosted into insane levels. By rights that would mean that Bishop could go toe to toe with Thor, Loki, Fing Fang Foom or the Destroyer armor or EVEN Silver Surfer. It's complete nonsense. WHEN is this XMEn insanity gonna end???
It's like if you are an XMAN you can't lose!!!What's that all about? Doom usurped Beyonder, SS, and other massive beings powers. He can't knock off Bishop>??????????????
Originally posted by LordFear
Don't you people see what I and several other members are trying to say? We are arguing how a simple man like Bishop albeit powerful in his own rights but yet a fairly one dimensional character is boosted into insane levels. By rights that would mean that Bishop could go toe to toe with Thor, Loki, Fing Fang Foom or the Destroyer armor or EVEN Silver Surfer. It's complete nonsense. WHEN is this XMEn insanity gonna end???
It's like if you are an XMAN you can't lose!!!What's that all about? Doom usurped Beyonder, SS, and other massive beings powers. He can't knock off Bishop>??????????????
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
People are so intent on proving that A) Doom is overrated and B) The X-Men are good, that they don't stay on topic for very long. They bury themselves in theoretics and eventualities.Rather than waking up and saying, "Wait....it IS Doom Vs Bishop"...and realising how dumb it is.
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Keeping the fight going doesn't matter if the result is him losing.This happens in every thread. "Rogue would lose to Hulk but she'd go down fighting", she's going down though, so what does it matter?
X-Men hyping needs to end. Just pointless.
-AC
Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Strangling? Using a spell that turns him into a cow?
yeah bishop has been upgraded. But his biggest upgrade isn't his power but his mind. When Age of Apoc happened bishop had to absorb a lot of chronal energy. That alone should have made him the most powerful being in marvel. When you think about it chronal energy is suppose to be the reason sentry is so powerful. Anyway, so to explain that he had to be able to absorb most if not all types of energy. I don't have a problem with it because he was cool when he got there and he is still a cool character. Anyway since he is from the future bishop has knowledge about the major players in marvel weaknesses and strength. How they die and how they live. You know stuff like that. Plus he was trained to fight in a very harsh time in human period. So yeah he's a badass. I say doom wins with some gadget that he teleports from his castle. but doom will not beat bishop in a physical one on one battle. If he uses magic it's no contest. You can't beat a magical armor made out of some one who loves you. But that's kinda weak and defeated in it's own way.