Originally posted by Wynndar
Doom killed a lion with his bare hands...i dont think many regular humans in the MU can do that...i dont think Bishop could do it without his powers...I honestly think Doom is probably a better fighter.
fighting ability and power r totally independent of one another...it doesnt matter how powerful ur opponent u train against is. That would have just as much merit as saying Bishop is used to fighting guys stronger than Shang Chi...but we all know Shang Chi would drop his ass. Do u think Bishop could kill a 500lb lion with his bare hands? i dont. And speaking of power, Doom killed the lion after battling a Celestial, Doom is used to fighting more powerful people than Bishop ever dreamt of fighting.
Originally posted by Wynndar
fighting ability and power r totally independent of one another...it doesnt matter how powerful ur opponent u train against is. That would have just as much merit as saying Bishop is used to fighting guys stronger than Shang Chi...but we all know Shang Chi would drop his ass. Do u think Bishop could kill a 500lb lion with his bare hands? i dont. And speaking of power, Doom killed the lion after battling a Celestial, Doom is used to fighting more powerful people than Bishop ever dreamt of fighting.
Killing a lion doesn't take martial arts skill. It takes strength and intelligence and luck. Bishop isn't some animal who is going to rush mindlessly at Doom, he's a skilled human fighter who uses his head in any battle.
an unarmed normal, or even peak, human being would have zero chance in a 1 on 1 encounter with a healthy adult lion....... if marvel wrote that he killed one with his "bare hands" than that is even more far fetched than wolverine surviving a nuke
male adult lions weigh over 500lbs and can bring down a buffalo neither Doom nor Captain freakin' America would (or maybe i ought to say SHOULD) be able to survive a lion attack, let alone kill the lion
but back to the topic...I dont think Bishop could kill a lion with his bare hands ...although he rarely has to break them out, Doom has incredible hand to hand fighting skills apparently...its not just pure fighting skill, its that Doom is sposed to be the most determined, focused, and spiritual adversary on Earth. Bishop was trained in the future in military like methods...Doom was trained in the martial arts by monks, and probably otherplaces, he's always picking up new stuff ie. Ovoid mind switch. I wouldnt even rate Bishop that highly in terms of best fighters on Earth...give Bishop his weapons...Dooms r better. I dont understand why u brought up Bishop being trained to fight more powerful opponents, u dont know how powerul Doom's armor is...and I could use that same argument to say Doom has not only fought but beaten far more powerful opponents single handed.
Originally posted by Wynndar
but back to the topic...I dont think Bishop could kill a lion with his bare hands ...although he rarely has to break them out, Doom has incredible hand to hand fighting skills apparently...its not just pure fighting skill, its that Doom is sposed to be the most determined, focused, and spiritual adversary on Earth. Bishop was trained in the future in military like methods...Doom was trained in the martial arts by monks, and probably otherplaces, he's always picking up new stuff ie. Ovoid mind switch. I wouldnt even rate Bishop that highly in terms of best fighters on Earth...give Bishop his weapons...Dooms r better. I dont understand why u brought up Bishop being trained to fight more powerful opponents, u dont know how powerul Doom's armor is...and I could use that same argument to say Doom has not only fought but beaten far more powerful opponents single handed.