Darth Nihilus

He also held the ship together, but I won't say he's better than Kun as the only EU I touch is Kotor, but he would probably have a good fight with Revan.

And I doubt that once he is locked in saber combat he would have much of a chance to get out and drain someone espeically and against someone of the likes of yoda,kun mace,anakin or someone of that magnitude of saber skill. I would even say that in a sabers only battle or once that he were to lock in saber combat against revan that revan would beat him.

Originally posted by Nikkolas
Killing every living thing on a planet.

Yanking a ship, and possibly a fleet, out of a gravity well.

Nihilus' real power is in force combat, but even his saber style is more focused on the force, he uses an aggressive one handed style and uses the other hand for force combat. It's only a fact that he pulled the Ravager out, pulling the fleet out is debatable, but he still held the ship together and kept his whole crew mind enslaved. He had to be weakened for The Exile(who was only an average Jedi before and during the Mandalorian Wars) a Sith turned Jedi, and the Mandalore.

Well if he was holding the ship together with the force then why was the ship still in one piece after he died. And why does the exile and mandalore need to set up time bombs on the ravager

Because if the ship fell apart when he died, the Exile and the others would die too.

Game Over.

Yet again it means he didn't keep the ship together through sheer will.

Maybe he was making it move, though.

That be pretty cool.

So? THe same feats were demonstrated by Kyp and Jacen. Woohooo

They put a ship through hyperspace on their own power?

Not to mention Nihilsu was simultaneously helping the crew to survive and moving the ship across the galaxy. Not just for a short period of time.

Helping the crew to survive? Excuse me? As a wound in the force, they became his slaves. That doesn't speak wonders for his abilities but for being a wound, because the same thing would happen had the Exile been a dark sider. Furthermore, I don't recall the ship traveling in hyperspace, it could have happened but I don't recall.

Helping the crew to survive? Excuse me? As a wound in the force, they became his slaves

Tobin says he keeps them all alive. I would say Tobin at least knows what is keeping him breathing, wouldn't you?

Plus he keeps them all alive as zombies, slowly draining them of life as Traya says.

So, yes, he keeps them alive. There's no other way a crew could survive in a spaceship with so many holes in the hull.

You're not understanding. There's no proof that he has a technique of any sort for this. It's stated that because of his being a dark wound in the force, everybody automatically becomes his slave (the weak minded that is), that isn't a technique. That's him being a black hole. The only thing we can say he DEFINITELY does is SOMEHOW keep the ship in tact, although that is an unknown, and eating the force (which is magnified by him being a wound).

Oh wait and how did we know he even Tked a ship even though the loading screen said so? The ship was broken and ravaged and could have been in pieces before nihilus lifted it up

Because it doesn't say the ship wa sin pieces when he lifted it.

So, assuming it was, has no backing whatsoever.

Because he has yet to do anything impressive like kun revan and sidious

LOL

Now you're specifically bringing in feats and showings.

In which case, Nihilus annihilates Revan.

I killed some Rakata just doesn't match up to killing a planet and every living thing on it.

If you want a Feat Wars, Revan is probably one of the weakest Sith ever right now.

Definitely a few dozen tiers below Nihilus.

and yoda could do no less.

So, you have any proof for this?

Yoda = Sidious ar ROTS.

As of burying the SSD, it's been several years on.

So we have no idea where their power levels rank at this time.

Plus it was canonically a fleet. Ans yanked from a gravity well.

Uh no you're going to play this game? We know Yoda>Nihilus because Sidious>Nihilus. If you want to argue canon sources and facts, go to EOD. Nihilus has one SPECIAL move which ranks him very high among force users of all time. But the likes of Kun and Revan are as good, if not better than him, and Yoda (as much as I hate it), is better than Kun and Revan.

Originally posted by Nikkolas
Because it doesn't say the ship wa sin pieces when he lifted it.

So, assuming it was, has no backing whatsoever.

LOL

Now you're specifically bringing in feats and showings.

In which case, Nihilus annihilates Revan.

I killed some Rakata just doesn't match up to killing a planet and every living thing on it.

If you want a Feat Wars, Revan is probably one of the weakest Sith ever right now.

Definitely a few dozen tiers below Nihilus.

Weak in terms of feats i highly doubt that.

He defeated the likes of Mandalore the ultimate, Yusanis the legendary echnai general, sf powered bastilla 4 times, sf powered malak who is described in the databank as nearly unstoppable.
Bane was scarred of some of his techniques,he knew the thought bomb,foce storm, and it was because of him that the republic was able to come back and defeat the mandalorians wars. And he was able to get through many(almost a really small army) of the star forge defense droids by himself . Hardly weak i could include more but i have to go out now.

No, if you want feat wars and verbal fellatios, Revan would fall just under Sidious. He plundered Korriban and Malachor V. Just because he doesn't try to kill everything in his path doesn't make him weak. IN fact he was a brilliant general which is why he succeeded in every area that Nihilus failed. Furthermore, it was because of REVAN that less than 100 jedi remained, and it was because of Revan that Bane introduced the rule of 2. So no, you're incorrect. Revan is VERY powerful and at LEAST as powerful as Nihilus.

Bane was scarred of some of his techniques,he knew the thought bomb,foce storm, and it was because of him that the republic was able to come back and defeat the mandalorians wars. And he was able to get through many(almost a really small army) of the star forge defense droids by himself . Hardly weak i could include more but i have to go out now.

But that's not what he said.

" Because he has yet to do anything impressive like kun revan and sidious"

Showed as in did. A feat we clearly saw happening.

And in that regard, Revan is very very low tier.

Most of his "feats" are gameplay or ambiguous quotes.

He plundered Korriban and Malachor V

So he's a Force Pirate. Arrrr.

Not impressive.

Just because he doesn't try to kill everything in his path doesn't make him weak

It would also help if he maybe showed some actual abilities.

IN fact he was a brilliant general which is why he succeeded in every area that Nihilus failed.

I didn't realize the two had anything in common.

Their objectives were totally different so how can one succeed where the other never tried?

Furthermore, it was because of REVAN that less than 100 jedi remained

And Sidious wiped out the entire Jedi Order.

Except...that was his machinations, not his own power.

An impressive feat to be sure to show brilliance but when talking about power in the Force, it isn't viable.

Uh no you're going to play this game? We know Yoda>Nihilus because Sidious>Nihilus

ABC Logic. Now you're reaching.

If you want to argue canon sources and facts, go to EOD

As I'm the only one who's provided canon sources for every single claim, it seems kinda like you're the one who should go there.

Revan is on a very very low tier? WHat the hell are you smoking?

Nikkolas im just gonna says that you didnt quote the duels he won which are great feats, and can you name any other force user who had techniques that bane was scared of? And those force powers that we know he has are powerful. Defeating a small of army of droids or (there a couple dozen at least before the duel with malak) which in th eclone wars killed many jedi who had back yet revan survived is a great feat. It was because of him alone that the republic defeated the mandalorians is a great accomplishment/feats.