Originally posted by Nikkolas
As LS pointed out, Kreia predicted shit.Boba is still alive and re-establishes the Mandalorians.
this sorta reminds of the chosen phrophecy how anakin was suppose to destroy the sith yet they come back and didnt the madalorians still survive even with jango's death on their home planet. And maybe it was that jango represented the madalorians to the rest of the galaxy.
Also, while you can assume Revan's knowledge of the Force is greater than Nihilus, the same is easily true for Atris and Traya.
But are either of them as powerful as Nihilus?
We can guess at the techniques and abilities Revan possesses but how do we know any of them are enough to work against Nihilus' powers?
Originally posted by Darth HordI never said Nihilus was a better saber duelist, only that his style was unorthodox and would be unfamiliar to Revan, and also since Nihilus' style focuses on force combat as much as it does saber he could integrate a force push into combat much easier. Nihilus' TK I believe is greater than Revan's, tho I'm not positive but I can't think of a real great TK feat Revan has. Although Revan has been in more battles, Nihilus has killed more. And his Force Killer would probably work on him.
Without the drain all he has is tk but tk can be blocked or if they do it at the same time like anakin and obi wan did. Revan could do a force storm and revan is> nihilus in sabers nihilus has been in one saber duel that we know of and lost ( and i know there are circumstances around it) This is one time i actually miss SW Legend(never thought i would say that) he knows more of revan's saber skill/battles he has been in more than i do plus there are pics of revan using jar kai and the exile has a vision of him using in it so thats one possibility of how he fought and we do know that revan most likely ended malak's life in a saber duel judging by duran qel droma's vision.
Originally posted by Violent2Dope
I never said Nihilus was a better saber duelist, only that his style was unorthodox and would be unfamiliar to Revan, and also since Nihilus' style focuses on force combat as much as it does saber he could integrate a force push into combat much easier. Nihilus' TK I believe is greater than Revan's, tho I'm not positive but I can't think of a real great TK feat Revan has. Although Revan has been in more battles, Nihilus has killed more. And his Force Killer would probably work on him.
he does have better tj but i doubt tk is enough to kill someone as powerful as revan(in a duel that he is not allowed drain in) And without the drain revan stands a very good chance of winning and with it he is probably done
Originally posted by Darth HordEvery time you refer to it as a drain I die a little inside, don't do it. His TK would help, as shown when Sideous fought Yoda and couldn't beat him with sabers, he fell back on TK to win the fight. And while Revan is the likely better duelist, Nihilus is not as crappy as some say he is. When he was weakened by trying his Force Killer on The Exile, it still took Exile, Visas, and Canderous to beat him in a fight that was more close ranged in other words sabers, except for Canderous who either used a gun or vibroblades.
he does have better tj but i doubt tk is enough to kill someone as powerful as revan(in a duel that he is not allowed drain in) And without the drain revan stands a very good chance of winning and with it he is probably done
Originally posted by Violent2Dope
Every time you refer to it as a drain I die a little inside, don't do it. His TK would help, as shown when Sideous fought Yoda and couldn't beat him with sabers, he fell back on TK to win the fight. And while Revan is the likely better duelist, Nihilus is not as crappy as some say he is. When he was weakened by trying his Force Killer on The Exile, it still took Exile, Visas, and Canderous to beat him in a fight that was more close ranged in other words sabers, except for Canderous who either used a gun or vibroblades.
Originally posted by Darth HordThat's what I call it. I agree that Visas and Exile have never really shown to be very uber saber wise(although didn't Exile know all forms of saber combat?) it still took both of them and Canderous, a skilled Mandalorian, to beat him while weakened. It's true that Nihilus doesn't use his saber often, but that's just cause he rarely needs to and is a testament to his power(Btw was it really necessary to correct my spelling of Sidious? You mispelled several things in the post I'm quoting). Alright I will concede the Yoda v. Sidious example but I think you get what I'm saying. I'll agree Revan is likely better with a saber than Nihilus, as well as Nihilus being better with Force. Also, notice I never said Nihilus wins only that the fight would not be some curbstomp.
than what should we call his attack? teh force killer? But the point i wasl also making way back when in the sion vs bane thread was that the exile and visas arent really teh uber saber duelist and we dont have any duels that the exile won with out some hitch to it other than the traya duel (i always wonder y she was the final boss yet weakessof triumvirate in my opinion) And is never said he was crappy but without it he does stand a good chance of losing to revan. And nihilus doenst strike me as one who trains in saber combat, all he ever wants to do is feed his hunger. Plus with the fotce kille rtecnique it seems like he wouldnt need his saber that much unless he faces the upper tier jedi/sith. And its sidious not sideous. And the yoda and sidious duel is not a really good example becuase the environment came into play and as gideon has said before it is a mystery how sidious became unarmed and they are differences from the novel and movie.And just for the record i believe revan>nihilus sabers only. nihilus>force and probably all out and with teh force killer it is very close and revan does stand a chance of winning
Originally posted by Violent2Dope
That's what I call it. I agree that Visas and Exile have never really shown to be very uber saber wise(although didn't Exile know all forms of saber combat?) it still took both of them and Canderous, a skilled Mandalorian, to beat him while weakened. It's true that Nihilus doesn't use his saber often, but that's just cause he rarely needs to and is a testament to his power(Btw was it really necessary to correct my spelling of Sidious? You mispelled several things in the post I'm quoting). Alright I will concede the Yoda v. Sidious example but I think you get what I'm saying. I'll agree Revan is likely better with a saber than Nihilus, as well as Nihilus being better with Force. Also, notice I never said Nihilus wins only that the fight would not be some curbstomp.
Yea i had to and i aint exactly the best speller so soorry. And i agree with everything u said.
I think it was said in the ultimate visual guide, im not entirely sure though. But I am not sure if it is still considered canon, the two dont have much contact with each other in kotor 2. Plus both of them were originally traya's apprentices then after they betrayed her they pretty much went their separate ways. And i remember if you talk to visas when she firsts joins your party you can ask her if her mater was responsible for what happened on paragus. And she says something like they are more than one sith factions.......