Originally posted by nigel45
First instinct is Magneto, though it may be within Flash's (Wally? Barry? Jay?) ability. It could depend on the specifics of the scenario and the environment.
Exactly. If this is Wally and its in the default setting and Magneto doesn't start with shields up, its all Wally. Magneto would never get a chance to react. If he is able to raise his defenses, he's a character that could defeat the Flash.
Originally posted by horrorwolf
This. If so Magneto wins.If he starts without flight or shields, Flash pwns him.
Flash can vibrate through shields.
And don't say he can't. Flash can vibrate through time, the walls between dimensions and even the Source Wall. A magnetic shield will be nothing.
Especially when he has experience with Magenta.
Originally posted by Draco69if flash tries to even touch the magnetic shield...that would be dumb because Magneto can form a shield around flash and simply crush him before he has a chance to break free
Flash can vibrate through shields.And don't say he can't. Flash can vibrate through time, the walls between dimensions and even the Source Wall. A magnetic shield will be nothing.
Especially when he has experience with Magenta.
Originally posted by Starscream Mlol... did you just say that Magneto could do something before Flash has a chance to react?
if flash tries to even touch the magnetic shield...that would be dumb because Magneto can form a shield around flash and simply crush him before he has a chance to break free
Flash should win. He can vibrate through any magnetic shield to reach Magneto. And there is no way Magneto could really track him without PIS - even taking it easy at just under light speed Flash would still reach Mags before the neurons in Mag's brain could fire or his optic nerve even began to register, let alone formulate and execute a response. Even if Mags had a brain 100x faster than a regular human it would still be no contest - light is much faster than the speed of thought.
But in a comic scenario, especially a team fight like JLA, with Flash being his usual dumb self Mags could take wins. In fact if it was a team fight of the JLA against Magneto I can guarantee the writer would have Flash get taken out early in the fight along with MM.
Flash 7/10.
Originally posted by Enyalus
Magneto has tracked Photon (Monica) while she was going light speed...I don't see Mags getting caught with his pants down, so to speak.
He tracked Monica because she was in an energy form that he could use his magnetic powers to keep track of.
Much like radio waves.
You saying Magneto can counter the friggin' (I'm so damn fast I outran friggin' DEATH, ya losers!) Flash?
Originally posted by Draco69
He tracked Monica because she was in an energy form that he could use his magnetic powers to keep track of.Much like radio waves.
He was still consciously able to see her. While she was going light speed. Clearly then his brain can process that amount of information that rapidly.
Besides that, Flash still has iron in his blood. Magneto's going to be able to track him anyway.
Onslaught had instantaneous shielding...I wish I had more Magneto appearances, because I think his shielding is also instantaneous. Can't be positive though, so until I can, I'll let that one drop.
Originally posted by Draco69
You saying Magneto can counter the friggin' (I'm so damn fast I outran friggin' DEATH, ya losers!) Flash?
I'm saying, since this is an in character fight, Flash isn't going to be going that fast. He frequently only goes mach 2 or 3, even when fighting. Hell, when he was fighting Grodd with Nightwing's help, he went all the way out of Keystone City to gather momentum and one-shot KO Grodd....he was going Mach 10.
Originally posted by EnyalusI'm saying, since this is an in character fight, Flash isn't going to be going that fast. He frequently only goes mach 2 or 3, even when fighting. Hell, when he was fighting Grodd with Nightwing's help, he went all the way out of Keystone City to gather momentum and one-shot KO Grodd....he was going Mach 10. [/B]
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Flash is only going to go Mach 2....?
Not on KMC, honey.
On KMC, he's gonna go at near or at lightspeed at the dot.
Which means Magneto gets his face splatted against the back of his helmet.