Originally posted by EnyalusHe was still consciously able to see her. While she was going light speed. Clearly then his brain can process that amount of information that rapidly. ]
Magneto cannot keep track of the Flash.
What's next, Magneto can keep track of the Runner or Silver Surfer?
Originally posted by Enyalus
[B]Besides that, Flash still has iron in his blood. Magneto's going to be able to track him anyway.
By the time, Magneto thinks "Fight", he's already been hit a million times.....
Originally posted by Enyalus
Okay.'Cause Flash does this all the time.
You've been here long enough to know the forum rules.
Especially regarding "No PIS" and "Full Capacity"
Does Flash do it all the time? No. Does he do it alot? Yep.
And I find it hilarious that Flash will be fighting at 1% capacity but Magneto's best feats allow him to fight at 100% capacity.
If this was TRUELY in character?
Magneto would STILL lose. Why? Because he's been tagged by far slower characters like Wolverine and Beast.....
Originally posted by Draco69No, no, no. Magneto was just playing with them, as he has every time he's been tagged by anybody slower than Monica.
Magneto would STILL lose. Why? Because he's been tagged by far slower characters like Wolverine and Beast.....
This isn't CBR, Draco. We gotta keep it at Magneto's average.
On average, Magneto destroys high heralders with his impenetrable shield and lightspeed reflexes.
Originally posted by Draco69
You've been here long enough to know the forum rules.Especially regarding "No PIS" and "Full Capacity"
Does Flash do it all the time? No. Does he do it alot? Yep.
Flash does not run around above lightspeed, at lightspeed, or even near lightspeed 'a lot.' You read Flash, right? I mean, going all the way back to Flash 190 and onward, no way. JLA issues from that time and beyond also attest to that fact.
Does Magneto run around 'a lot' of the time with his shields up? Yup. Does he manipulate the iron in peoples blood before? Yup. Has he torn up whole streets and cars, etc, before, just because he felt like it (which would sure as hell nullify Flash's speed advantage)? Yup.
Its not like I'm saying, "Magneto uses his bottle effect to suck the Speedforce dry FTW."
Originally posted by EnyalusYou think Magneto does those things more often than Flash runs fast?
Does Magneto run around 'a lot' of the time with his shields up? Yup. Does he manipulate the iron in peoples blood before? Yup. Has he torn up whole streets and cars, etc, before, just because he felt like it (which would sure as hell nullify Flash's speed advantage)? Yup.
Especially considering you seem to believe he'd do them all at the same time. Which is apparently far more likely than Flash simply running fast.
Originally posted by Original Smurph
You think Magneto does those things more often than Flash runs fast?
More often than Flash blitzes people at lightspeed or higher? Yes. Blitzing people at lightspeed or higher whom he has just met and only has basic knowledge of? Oh hell yes.
Originally posted by Original Smurph
Especially considering you seem to believe he'd do them all at the same time.
Originally posted by Enyalus
Flash does not run around above lightspeed, at lightspeed, or even near lightspeed 'a lot.' You read Flash, right? I mean, going all the way back to Flash 190 and onward, no way. JLA issues from that time and beyond also attest to that fact.
Actually, during the Waid era, Flash was going at lightspeed alot....
Originally posted by Enyalus
Does Magneto run around 'a lot' of the time with his shields up? Yup. Does he manipulate the iron in peoples blood before? Yup. Has he torn up whole streets and cars, etc, before, just because he felt like it (which would sure as hell nullify Flash's speed advantage)? Yup.
None of these tactics would bother Flash in the least.
You're still assuming that Magneto will have TIME to react to the Flash to erect any sort of defense much less attack.
You're also assuming that Magneto will have his shields up before the battle. Which would be considered prep. Even if he does constantly keep up a shield, you're assuming it's powerful endure an assault from the Flash.
Originally posted by Enyalus
Its not like I'm saying, "Magneto uses his bottle effect to suck the Speedforce dry FTW."
You might as well.
Originally posted by Draco69
Actually, during the Waid era, Flash was going at lightspeed alot....
That was...6 years ago or something?
Originally posted by Draco69
You're also assuming that Magneto will have his shields up before the battle. Which would be considered prep.
Nope. I wasn't saying that he starts battle with shields up. Never implied that, either. 😛
Originally posted by EnyalusFlash needs to run lightspeed to blitz Magneto?More often than Flash blitzes people at lightspeed or higher? Yes. Blitzing people at lightspeed or higher whom he has just met and only has basic knowledge of? Oh hell yes.[/B]
lulz.
Originally posted by EnyalusHaving seen you list them off as tactic after tactic to counter Flash simply running, I would say it's a pretty heavy implication that he needs to do all those things, or a majority, to have any sort of edge.
I never said or implied that. 😬 [/B]
Not that he would have an edge, but again, all I'm doing is interpreting your implications.
So yes, you did in fact imply that he would be more likely to do all (or at least most) of what you've named to stand a chance, whereas you criticize Flash supporters for believing that Flash is likely to run really fast.
Unless you truly believe that Magneto's gonna stand a chance performing only one of those tactics (say, only raise his shield, or only go for an iron-blood pull), then this is hypocrisy.
Flash wins.
Originally posted by Original Smurph
Flash needs to run lightspeed to blitz Magneto?lulz.
Originally posted by Original Smurph
Having seen you list them off as tactic after tactic to counter Flash simply running, I would say it's a pretty heavy implication that he needs to do all those things, or a majority, to have any sort of edge.
Originally posted by Original Smurph
Flash wins.
I've got no issues with that. Flash is, what, mid-herald? Magneto is...not. I can think of plenty of ways for Flash to win. Just, IMO and with the newer forum rules of CIS and CIP, I don't think he'd use them or go all out from the outset. And by the time he realized he'd need to, Magneto would already have ****ed him up.
Originally posted by EnyalusMagneto tracking someone at lightspeed is not an average showing, and not something that he'd be any more prepared to do at the offset than Flash would to run fast.
Magnus has no problems with Quicksilver. And he can track someone going at light speed. He's going to somehow be unable to react to a Flash coming from half a kilometer away, who might be going - I would say generously, 10 or so times the speed of sound?
Originally posted by EnyalusAnd yet he needs to do all of those things to win.
Sure, he can and might use all those tactics in order to get a win here. You thought I meant he'd do them all at the same time. I'm saying, I'm not that much of a fanboy to assume such a thing.
You're not fanboy enough to believe that Magneto would win, and yet you're fanboy enough to argue that he would win? At least, that's what it seems like, prefaced by that comment, and then followed by...
Originally posted by EnyalusSo, you think that Magneto might shield and blood pull and so forth before Flash goes fast enough, and you think that Flash wouldn't go fast enough before Magneto "****s him up".
Just, IMO and with the newer forum rules of CIS and CIP, I don't think he'd use them or go all out from the outset. And by the time he realized he'd need to, Magneto would already have ****ed him up.
Funny.