Luke Cage vs. Colossus

Started by the Darkone8 pages

Colossus would beat the hell out of him, Colossus is class 100+ and greater invulnerability and just as skilled overall better

Originally posted by carver9
Colossus stomps, badly.
Pretty certain that I recall several different fights that Cage had with class 70-100 characters(Rhino, Ironclad, Namor, Powerman, Hulk). One of the most impressive of Cage's feats includes fighting Namor on three separate occasions and even managing to hold his own against him while they are fighting in water(he fought Namor while in water on two seperate occasions and in the second fight, while underwater, Luke managed to draw blood). He's also beaten the Rhino twice, once when he was still just a 3 tonner and once when he just got upgraded. He also fought the Hulk in a 1v1 fight and held his own. You're vastly underestimating Cage in this fight.

Originally posted by the Darkone
Colossus would beat the hell out of him, Colossus is class 100+ and greater invulnerability and just as skilled overall better
More skilled than him? 😆 Cage fought off multiple hoods when he was just an adolescent, went to jail (where he learned even better ways of fighting and defending himself), and was trained in h2h combat by Ironfist. How exactly is Colossus a better fighter?

Originally posted by zopzop
Wrong dear Carver.

Who has Colossus gone up against that's so much more powerful than foes Luke Cage has fought? No one.

Colossus' most impressive showing.............ever was against WWH where he lasted for like a panel or two. All his other fights are meh.

For a Cl15 character, Luke's rogues gallery is easily as impressive as Cl100 Colossus'.

Your argument doesnt mean much though. Who has Cage defeated that's above Colossus level? Colossus is stronger, faster, more durable, and he is just as good a fighter as Cage is. Cage holds no advantage. Colossus being beaten by people outside of his tier doesn't give Luke credit. Now again, who has Luke defeated that is outside of the scope of Colossus capabilities?

Originally posted by deathslash
Pretty certain that I recall several different fights that Cage had with class 70-100 characters(Rhino, Ironclad, Namor, Powerman, Hulk). One of the most impressive of Cage's feats includes fighting Namor on three separate occasions and even managing to hold his own against him while they are fighting in water(he fought Namor while in water on two seperate occasions and in the second fight, while underwater, Luke managed to draw blood). He's also beaten the Rhino twice, once when he was still just a 3 tonner and once when he just got upgraded. He also fought the Hulk in a 1v1 fight and held his own. You're vastly underestimating Cage in this fight.

Never said that Cage wouldn't punch at Colossus...Colossus is physically in a different tier.

Originally posted by zopzop
Look at the fights CL15(?) Luke Cage has been in, then look at the fights CL100 Colossus has been in.

Look up "fail" in the dictionary and you'll see a picture of Colossus there.

I think you're completely wrong, but that's me.

Originally posted by deathslash
More skilled than him? 😆 Cage fought off multiple hoods when he was just an adolescent, went to jail (where he learned even better ways of fighting and defending himself), and was trained in h2h combat by Ironfist. How exactly is Colossus a better fighter?

Trained by Wolverine and Cyclops in martial arts. Cage isn't exactly Bruce Lee.

You're right, he's many times above Bruce Lee.

Cage achieved something that only Temugin with his uber skill was able to do... punched Living Laser shocklaugh

Nope, he's not. But he's learned a few tricks, like judo takedowns and targeting the weakest point on a body against more durable, stronger opponents. (Say, hunanoid giant robots durable enough where he not only couldn?t dent them, but hurt his hand trying. And strong enough to one punch ko him.)

Cage = Temugin >>> Bruce Lee, end of discussion uhuh

Originally posted by carver9
Never said that Cage wouldn't punch at Colossus...Colossus is physically in a different tier.
So was the Rhino, Ironclad, Wonderman, the Hulk, Doctor Doom, Ironman, Absorbing Man, and Namor but Cage has still held his own against and beaten most of them. Yeah, you never said that Cage wouldn't punch at him and yet you still said that Colossus stomps badly. If you seriously don't see Cage putting up a good fight or even winning, then you're blind to his feats.

Stilt...what's the issue number of that comic?

Originally posted by deathslash
So was the Rhino, Ironclad, Wonderman, the Hulk, Doctor Doom, Ironman, Absorbing Man, and Namor but Cage has still held his own against and beaten most of them.

That still doesnf prove he would beat Colossus though. Cage doesn't hold a single advantage. Out of people you've named, which ones did Cage defeat?

Originally posted by deathslash
So was the Rhino, Ironclad, Wonderman, the Hulk, Doctor Doom, Ironman, Absorbing Man, and Namor but Cage has still held his own against and beaten most of them. Yeah, you never said that Cage wouldn't punch at him and yet you still said that Colossus stomps badly. If you seriously don't see Cage putting up a good fight or even winning, then you're blind to his feats.

Rocked Count Nefaria with a punch, drew blood from Ethan Edwards, actually did better against Gargan than Colossus...

I know about only 2 fights with Namor, only AvX one is canon to 616, afaik.

Originally posted by carver9
Stilt...what's the issue number of that comic?

New Avengers volume 1 (written by Bendis, of course), don't remember the exact issue number.

#61, I think.

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=preview&id=4278

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Thanks.

No problem.

Originally posted by carver9
That still doesnf prove he would beat Colossus though. Cage doesn't hold a single advantage. Out of people you've named, which ones did Cage defeat?
He beat Rhino twice (once when he was still just a 3 tonner), oneshotted Ironclad, beatdown Doctor Doom, more or less stalemated the hulk, straight up beat Absorbing Man, held his own against Wonderman, fought namor on three separate occasions (fought him in the water twice during AVX and even drew blood from him while they fought in the water), and stalemated Ironman for quite a while.

Originally posted by deathslash
He beat Rhino twice (once when he was still just a 3 tonner), oneshotted Ironclad, beatdown Doctor Doom, more or less stalemated the hulk, straight up beat Absorbing Man, held his own against Wonderman, fought namor on three separate occasions (fought him in the water twice during AVX and even drew blood from him while they fought in the water), and stalemated Ironman for quite a while.

What issue is fhe Wonderman and Doom fight.?

Not impressed with Rhino or Absorbing man. When did he fight Ironman? Issue #. He really didn't do much with Namor and that story alone was the worst writing I've seen in a comic

The Hulk showing wasn't that great for him either.

He didn't defeat any of these people minus Rhino/jobber.

Originally posted by carver9
What issue is fhe Wonderman and Doom fight.?

Not impressed with Rhino or Absorbing man. When did he fight Ironman? Issue #. He really didn't do much with Namor and that story alone was the worst writing I've seen in a comic

The Hulk showing wasn't that great for him either.

He didn't defeat any of these people minus Rhino/jobber.

😐 You're seriously not impressed that he held his own against several different class 50-100 characters? I don't have the issue number but here's a link to Cage's fights and multiple feats. Just scroll down the page until you see all of his different fights.
http://hudlinentertainment.com/smf/...hp?topic=4305.0

If you scroll down the page, there will be more pages to click on that show Cage's multiple feats(sort of like how you can go to the multiple pages on the threads)