Luke Cage vs. Colossus

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Originally posted by juggernaut74

You are aware that Rhino was a CL5 at that time right?

No, but go on.

Originally posted by Tony Stark
You are aware that Rhino was a CL5 at that time right?
he also beat rhino quite a while after that.

Rhino was never class 5. That's just jobbing on his part.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Rhino was never class 5. That's just jobbing on his part.

No, I think he's right. I VAGUELY recall the '85 Deluxe Handbook Edition mention this. He was around CL5-10 initially, then he got a few enhancements.

The question is, did that fight take place when Rhino was CL5-10.

^Well, Luke Cage is in his "sweet christmas" clothing, so it's a while ago at least.

Rhino was definitely weaker in the old days, even The Thing was class 5 at some point.

Originally posted by zopzop
No, I think he's right. I VAGUELY recall the '85 Deluxe Handbook Edition mention this. He was around CL5-10 initially, then he got a few enhancements.

The question is, did that fight take place when Rhino was CL5-10.

even if he was a 5-10 tonner, Luke started out as a 3 tonner (meaning that he still beat someone stronger than him)

Hulk must have been Class 5 back then also because he's never one-shotted Rhino like that.

Oh, and Rhino was never class 5, the lowest he's been was class 20.

i want to say colossus, but cage is just damn tough and nasty. what he lacks in strength here he makes up for in sheer orneriness. and skill. i'd give him a slight edge. in classic x-men days and powerman and iron fist days, i'd give a solid majority to peter....

This fight is closer than people think but I still back the real man of steel. Colossus wins 7/10 imo. The dude has slugged it out with Gladiator, kayoed Savage Hulk, impressed WWHulk in a strength contest, kayoed Blob and on and on.

Originally posted by juggernaut74
This fight is closer than people think but I still back the real man of steel. Colossus wins 7/10 imo. The dude has slugged it out with Gladiator, kayoed Savage Hulk, impressed WWHulk in a strength contest, kayoed Blob and on and on.

i agree it's close. i wouldn't have said that 5 years ago, but it seems pretty clear that cage is more than he used to be, like danny also evolved.... too bad. i really liked them both where they were.

Danny's evolution did him some good though, and it was well written.

Cage's just been getting love from Bendis...

meh, i agree it did the character good--i just never saw the need for it and it always felt forced imo. i really liked classic danny and his level. i'm less thrilled with the new version of lord rand...

So was there any more shown of the alleged Cage/Colossus scuffle?

I haven`t paid much attention to Cage for a while,last I heard he was in the 40 ton range.But Colossus is at least 70+ ton range,not that strength is everything in a fight.But they seem close to equal in fighting abilty,Colossus.Pete wins 8 out of 10!

Originally posted by juggernaut74
So was there any more shown of the alleged Cage/Colossus scuffle?

Nope.

Then there isn't enough quantifiable evidence to support Cage winning in any way. Maybe if had we some text or a conversation saying what happened. Like the time Colossus bashed in Abominations face in.

Don't see Cage hurting Colossus in any way. In the end Colossus wins without being seriously threatened

Originally posted by juggernaut74
Like the time Colossus bashed in Abominations face in.

Wasn't an entire team of X-Men attacking Abomination too?