Midicholorians: A second look at Episode 3??

Started by southtownbluz4 pages

That, Emperor, or he doesn't really give a crap. After all, he becomes the Emperor, so his "clean" appearance might have only been kept to not attract attention to himself. Who's to know that the Jedi haven't seen a similar disfiguration in Sith previously? He might have easily given himself away.

Also, he needed to keep a clean face for Anakin as to not frighten him away. I'm thinking only after his seduction did he see Palpy's true form. By then it didn't matter.

Then again, who knows, maybe Anakin sees it early on and thinks it looks hot. LOL

just kidding guys XD

"maybe midicholorians react violently against dark side usage? but then dooku's not affected."

who knows, maybe dooku USED to look like cindy crawford.

I think that is a very good theory, Southtown!

Could be true; there are the minor changes to appearance in KOTR...

True 'dat, REX....

ok, getting the eu crap outta the way, what about all the previous sith lords during the golden age of the sith? none of them seem pretty screwed as palpatine, and they are like sith in their prime.

it would be good if palpatine said something like hes been using the darkside since he was young or something. then you could see how long hes been using it and how badly it has twisted him.

or not....watever.

Good question, Mist. I don't know much about the EU so I couldn't answer. My guess on the differences of this theory and the inhouse production work from LucasArts is merely coincidental, since they've never been alluded to before. Perhaps the EU work isn't restricted because it's not necessarily canon. That or these particular deformations are related to humanlike species and wouldn't affect some alien races, i.e. Maul. Although, I think the issue with Maul was more of inexperience than anything else.

Might sound like a cheap excuse, but then there's also the issue of midichlorian count/power. Even Maul had to train for some time, although I'm not sure how long his training was. Obviously, he was young and unable to use Force lightning. Possibly, it wasn't even possible due to his midichlorain count. And Dooku, with all his prior knowledge of the force, still had no degredation genetically after Dark Force training. As it was explained before, it could have been due to a political stance versus outright evil. Either way, his knowledge combined with exposure to the Force made it possible to weild force lightning. Although, the genetic repercussions were abated for one reason or another.

I think Palpy and Anakin represent hatred and evil in there "purest" forms. They were both raw power, with Anakin coming along with an even higher potential and midi-count. Hence, GL's comment that Anakin becomes pure evil. The two of them dominated a universe, a feat not referenced in any documentations of Star Wars history. None that I know of, at least.

A unique case, the two of them, but there are references that could link the midichlorian theory. All of the Sith have displayed either physical deformations (whether as mild as Anakin/Palpatine/Maul's eyes or as extreme as Palpy's face and Anakin's skin) or unatural force abilities, i.e. Dooku/Palpatine's force lightning.

Albeit that raises a question of Anakin's ability to use force lightning in the game. It could be creative freedom or a progressive based system, and all this might even have merit in the game.

South! 😱 Excellent thread man! thumbsup And I like your theory. Anakin looks pretty ragged to me in ROTS.

Originally posted by southtownbluz

I think Palpy and Anakin represent hatred and evil in there "purest" forms. They were both raw power, with Anakin coming along with an even higher potential and midi-count. Hence, GL's comment that Anakin becomes pure evil. The two of them dominated a universe, a feat not referenced in any documentations of Star Wars history. None that I know of, at least.

Thats true i suppose. I suppose they could rely more on using their hatred and anger physically, as previous sith (after the rule of two and secrecy) couldnt really do much except plan out and execute small things without being noticed.

And the golden age sith were in the middle of a war against the jedi, so they probably didnt have a lot of time to focus their abilities to full capability, whereas anakin and palpatine pretty much own everyone in the galaxy, and have the clones to assault the jedi.

meh...who knows, this might turn into an unanswered question like yoda's species.

this makes perfect sense to me, the dark side has an effect on the Midicholorians in ur cells, and makes u "become unatural" looking cause it deformes ur skin etc.

good job!

I just saw Mist's signature! ROTFLMAO hysterical

*bows to the priestess*

*hmmm I sense a disturbance in the Force, someone is fishing for points* 😉

another 50 perhaps?

Originally posted by Jedi Priestess
I just saw Mist's signature! ROTFLMAO hysterical

come on, thats gotta be worth at least 50!

Granted that was pretty fecking funny. OK 50 it is. 🙂

YES! as i recall, the count is now 175? only 775 more...and ill have that planet.....

Has it occurred to anyone that from what we have been allowed to see, Anakins post-burn appearance matches up nicely with the revealed Empire and ROTJ shots...with 20 some odd years of natural aging! What I mean is that the Anakin we see in the original trilogy is scarred and artificial from the events we will all see unfold in Ep3....but not seemingly affected by 22 some odd years of constant Sith power use in the same way as Palps.....when the helmet comes off in ROTJ, I think that we are supposed to correlate this with a now 42 (give or take) year old version of the guy we will bid farewell to in Ep3.....but realistiacally, he has been EVIL sith for 20 years...Alderraan is just the most recent atrocity by the time we catch up with him....but he is not all "evilled out".......why?

Originally posted by Darth Plagueis
Has it occurred to anyone that from what we have been allowed to see, Anakins post-burn appearance matches up nicely with the revealed Empire and ROTJ shots...with 20 some odd years of natural aging! What I mean is that the Anakin we see in the original trilogy is scarred and artificial from the events we will all see unfold in Ep3....but not seemingly affected by 22 some odd years of constant Sith power use in the same way as Palps.....when the helmet comes off in ROTJ, I think that we are supposed to correlate this with a now 42 (give or take) year old version of the guy we will bid farewell to in Ep3.....but realistiacally, he has been EVIL sith for 20 years...Alderraan is just the most recent atrocity by the time we catch up with him....but he is not all "evilled out".......why?

One explanation could be that when a force user returns to the light side, they lose their deformities. Remember, when Luke removed Vader's helmet, he had already returned to the Light (at least that's my understanding). In ESB, although we saw the back of Vader's head w/ scar, we never see his face.
Another thought. Age affects different people's faces differently, some better and some worse. Perhaps different Sith are affected differently by the use of the Dark Side.
Jst my thoughts.

here's what im thinking on that.. when anakin becomes vader, he is really just a kid still.. then all this sh@t happens to him and now he is disfigured and requires this suit to live which is something i have always believed to vaders crutch and the leash that palps has on vader to control him, hence the statement " i must obey my master" imagine if anakin/vader laying on the or table being transformed into this machine has some regret of the actions that led to his predicament.. perhaps he feels like he could have listened a little more and not been such a jackass.. he would most likely feel trapped or stuck in this new role that he didn't really read the job desription on before he signed up.. in the end i think it would make all a little pissed off if we had to follow some old guy around and do his bidding and kiss his a$$. im almost positive that from that moment the conflict that luke spoke about with vader began.. i believe vader was looking for a way out from the beginning , however he was going about it the wrong way.. vader probably thought that his way out from under the emperor was for him to be destroyed because at least then he could have some sense of controling his own destiny again.. sadly his only way out was to sacrifice himself which he gladly did to save his son from his own fate.. my point is that vader never deformed like papls because the conflict was to strong within him and he never really gave himself completely to the darkside as we have thought before..

Hmmmm...going back to the altered DVD versions though, Anakins' force ghost (is there an "official" term for this phenomenon?) has been altered to reflect Haydens version, suggesting....well, suggesting what exactly???? His apparition reppresents how he looked decades before his death......hmmm...troubling the future is,,,,