Green Lantern vs. Storm and Sue Storm

Originally posted by 2damnloud
It's not about that.

It's about manipulating the atmosphere INSIDE.

As I recall, his shield has faltered from a few punches from Supes.

Storm's winds can level mountains and Sue can crack Celecstial armor.

Sue's powers are specifically keyed to the same hyperspace power of the Celestials and that's the reason why she was able to break the armor, as was clearly stated in the story (which was PIS filled and best forgotten anyway).

Does Magneto's shield even block psionics? I thought his will power, his helmet, and his own latent psionic powers were responsible for a lot of that? Anyway that's another topic...

Storm didn't directly break his shields in that scan, he felt the cold - which would not affect a GL anyway since they deal with temperatures far hotter/colder than anything generated by earth weather. Plus unlike GL shields, his magnetic shields can't provide a self-sustaining totally independent environment. Nor can Unus'. Mags and Unus have to maintain some contact with the outside to survive beyond a short period and that is the weak point.

As for GL communicating with MM telepathically I assume he just wills his shield to allow it, analogous to blocking one radio frequency but not others.

I think (as so many have already stated) this comes down to the fact that in order for Storm or Sue to affect a GL through the shields, SOME sort of force/energy has to get through the shield to cause an effect, otherwise nothing happens.

In Storm's case I'm fairly sure this is psionics, which GL can definitely stop. And Since GL shields have been shown to block planetary & supernova explosions and protect them from the extreme conditions encountered in space, the physical effect of any earth weather won't be a problem. GL can fly through any effect she throws up and the ring can track her and affect her through it also. And he's a lot faster. I think Storm is a non-factor here.

As for Sue, the hyperspace thing is a bit of an unknown (if in fact that whole storyline still even applies - the forcefield has also been called an extension of willpower IIRC). I have no doubt GL's as cosmic level beings could deal with this with prep - but would the average shield stop it? Maybe.

I'm going to go with any non-rookie & competent GL for the win here. Rookie GL's would lose a few.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Actually why shouldn't Storm's powers work through a shield? If she can control the weather outside when she's inside how is it really different from controlling the weather inside a shield?

Bumping for a less dickish response.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Bumping for a less dickish response.

Oh, you weren't being sarcastic? 😕

I found out that winds cab reach the speed of sound on Earth, though not "expected" by scientist.An-- F6-F12 Tornado.

Storm can create vortexes greater than this.

Yo.

how does that applie here tho??

Tazer

Storm kills both of em, then rapes the Green Lantern

Originally posted by Capt Spaulding
Storm kills both of em, then rapes the Green Lantern

With her enormous wang! 😱

note to self: get rid of the mental image and then delete all the futa from my hard drive

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
With her enormous wang! 😱

note to self: get rid of the mental image and then delete all the futa from my hard drive

just pm it all to trickster haermm or llagrok shocklaugh

Symm, you should totally get MSN 313

Originally posted by Tazer
Yo.

how does that applie here tho??

Tazer

They always limit her winds to something like 318(F5 on the Fujita scale). But Fujita's scale goes to F12 somewhere from the speed of sound to 900 mph.

Really the fujita scale is a measure of how much destruction can be accomplished with an estimated wind speed. 318 is estimated as all you need for most all buildings to be destroyed.

Winds past that would be redundant as far as destruction that's why it stops at F5.

Really, any wind speed can exist on Earth, all you need are the right conditions. Storm can create those conditons. 😈

A few storms are going to stop a GL... imagine that...

Originally posted by 2damnloud

Really, any wind speed can exist on Earth, all you need are the right conditions. Storm can create those conditons. 😈

INSIDE his shield.😗

That was the subject of this thread.

Originally posted by Badabing
Just about anything can happen with the "right conditions". Theory and conjecture aren't proof. Show some on panel evidence of Storm and these theoretical winds or any point you make is invalid in regards to said winds.

Argument from ignorance fallacy.

🙂

Also double-standard fallacy since "theory" and "conjecture" are always used in HYPOTHETICAL battles on this board.

Originally posted by 2damnloud
INSIDE his shield.😗

That was the subject of this thread.

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
Which is going to do... what exactly? He's flown in space, he's got hit by things more powerful than lightning without his shield. That's not even counting armor, and him actually fighting back... and moving around... 😐

I've read his respect thread.

All attacks from the OUTSIDE.

Originally posted by 2damnloud
I've read his respect thread.

All attacks from the OUTSIDE.

Also, if you're talking about his green glow... do you honestly think atmosphere is going to work within skin tight areas?

Originally posted by 2damnloud
Argument from ignorance fallacy.

🙂

Originally posted by 2damnloud
Also double-standard fallacy since "theory" and "conjecture" are always used in HYPOTHETICAL battles on this board.

No Bias Claims
"Batman can beat Thor because he's cooler!" That's an example of how not to debate. We would like to see the rationale behind any claims that one character can beat the other rather than a claim based on popularity and subjective bias.
Also, we insist that all claims be backed up by evidence from canon sources. If you claim that Spiderman is stronger than Superman, then you have to prove it.

It is also assumed that the characters fight at their optimum levels of ability - not explicitly weakened or unusually powered up for those who have variable power levels.

Stay within the rules and use on panel, canon proof. Subjective bias and conjecture concerning a character's potential is not valid proof.

End of discussion. 😉

Seriously GL's shields have held Hector Hammond's psionic powers at bay. and Hammond has managed to contact GL without his ring in Oa from earth when in prison. That shows how powerful Hector is.

Originally posted by Badabing
I'm not Cresh......save it for him. Hypothetical battles backed by ON panel showings, not a hypothetical battle based on theoretical possibilities. Read the rules.

Cresh has no baring on whether your logic is faulty or not.✅

And hypothetical means:
http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/hypothetical

See that "C" word? 🙄

Hypothetical= CONJECTURAL.

Originally posted by Badabing

Stay within the rules and use on panel, canon proof. Subjective bias and conjecture concerning a character's potential is not valid proof.

End of discussion. 😉

Nope, not the end of anything. 🙂

Her bio, for which the notion of her maximum winds is bult on, states that she can create weather as it naturally exist.

Winds higher than 318 mph can natually exist, therfore she can create them.