Champion of the Universe VS Superman

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
Superman won't be able to knock BB out before he utters a sound, knocking Superman out. A whisper from Black Bolt has destroyed a range of mountains.

Moondragon has unmatched telepathic abilities even without the Gem or the Uni-mind. She's still more powerful than MM. Don't call me a liar. When did she attempt to take over the "Eternals home world?" (Though I already know there is no "Eternal homeworld."😉

A dart. Why the hell would he shoot him with a dart? Does it move faster than a shotgun shell? Was this dart, (by any chance) moving at lightspeed?

I'm calling you a liar because you lied about everything regarding MoonDragon. MoonDragon's powers are nowhere near MM's level. Give it up. No Dragon, No Uni-Mind, No Gem. Her telepathy is low-level without them. The Handbook rates Charles Xavier's telepathy at Level 6 and MoonDragon at Level 3. She's not that good. The Eternal homeworld is Titan. Which she assaulted under the influence of the Dragon and her own mad deeds. She's not connected to the Uni-Mind. (Avengers #216 & 217)

Deathstroke used a sniper rifle. Kid Flash (immature brat he was) didn't know what hit him. Until he was paralazed and Deathstroke shot him in the knee.

Originally posted by the Darkone
marvel universe k-m gives more info 1983.cousin I will admited that one. Her new body is eternal dna. www. marvunapp .com appendix /appchctr. htm

You said her sister. Not cousin.

The link is nonexistent. It doesn't work.

go to google type in (marvel universe ) double click "appendix to the handbook to marvel" (click on characters go to eternals it will take you too sersi loft click on encyclopedia olympianna ) moondragon overmaster study the world of marvel gods and eternals

Her powers are far from "low level." She has telepathically subdued a planet of millions without the Mind Gem. She's far more skilled than MM; all of Mentor's telepathic abilities, and techniques were telepathically transferred to her. She can destroy reinforced steel with a mental bolt, or kill someone from 20 feet. You are drastically downplaying her abilities. She is an immensely powerful telepath without any enhancements.

Heh, if we're going by current power levels, Quasar is currently Captain Universe. Imagine that. Captain Universe with the Quantum bands.

Originally posted by Draco69
. The Handbook rates Charles Xavier's telepathy at Level 6 and MoonDragon at Level 3. She's not that good. The Eternal homeworld is Titan. Which she assaulted under the influence of the Dragon and her own mad deeds. She's not connected to the Uni-Mind. (Avengers #216 & 217)

Wow. YOU'RE lying. Telepathy is not even a stat on the Handbook ability charts. I've got the X-Men Handbook. There's Intelligence, Strength, Durability, Speed, Energy Projection, and Fighting ability. Telepathy is not measured.

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
Her powers are far from "low level." She has telepathically subdued a planet of millions without the Mind Gem. She's far more skilled than MM; all of Mentor's telepathic abilities, and techniques were telepathically transferred to her. She can destroy reinforced steel with a mental bolt, or kill someone from 20 feet. You are drastically downplaying her abilities. She is an immensely powerful telepath without any enhancements.

Again with lying. She telepathically enslaved millions on the planet Ba-Genis with THE DRAGON OF THE MOON enhancing her powers and controlling her. Iron Man also built a machine to amplify her powers.

You're drastically exgarrating her powers. Give it up. Stop lying. I have the information right in front of me.

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
Wow. YOU'RE lying. Telepathy is not even a stat on the Handbook ability charts. I've got the X-Men Handbook. There's Intelligence, Strength, Durability, Speed, Energy Projection, and Fighting ability. Telepathy is not measured.

If you use what little brain you have, Telepathy is under "Energy Projection" which is Level Three. Charles is far above that. MoonDragon has Level Three "Energy Projection". Thus Charles is a more powerful telepath.

You lied about everything regarding MoonDragon and you refuse to admit it. I caught you in the act.

Watch the insults, mister. You still lied. Charles is a 5.

You didn't say "energy projection" you said "telepathy."

Moondragon never lost the Dragon of the moon.

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
Heh, if we're going by current power levels, Quasar is currently Captain Universe. Imagine that. Captain Universe with the Quantum bands.

Source. I really don't trust you anymore. Searched the Net. The only reference to Quasar being Captain Universe is a old "What-If?" issue.

Originally posted by Draco69
Again with lying. She telepathically enslaved millions on the planet Ba-Genis with THE DRAGON OF THE MOON enhancing her powers and controlling her. Iron Man also built a machine to amplify her powers.

I said without the mind gem. Not the dragon of the moon. Read up.

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
Watch the insults, mister. You still lied. Charles is a 5.

You didn't say "energy projection" you said "telepathy."

Moondragon never lost the Dragon of the moon.

I misquoted. I don't have the comic on hand and I'm certainly not gonna look for it. Moon Dragon is Three and Charles is 5. Do the math.

Did you read my previous post. I even CAP the part where she lost the Dragon of the Moon.

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
I said without the mind gem. Not the dragon of the moon. Read up.

Repost.

Thano's assaults on Titan drove MoonDragon to Earth where she allied herself with various heroes and joined the Avenger. Her questionable ethics and massive ego gradually estranged her from most of her peers. This culiminated in MoonDragon telepatchically forcing the Avengers to aid her in her "benevolent" conquest of the war-torn Ba-Benis, but the Avengers ultimately subdued her and turned her over to the Asgardian gods. They placed her in custody of the Defenders, who helped her truly reform until the Dragon of the Moon, a cosmic demon that she destroyed but survived inside her; boilstering and feeding her upon the darker aspects of her personality, turned her against them, resulting in the destruction of both Heather and the Dragon. (i.e. They killed her) MoonDragon was resurrected by the Eternals and her cousin, Pam Douglas, who developed powers of her own and became Sundragon. FREE FROM THE DRAGON'S INFLUENCE, Heather remains arrogant and self-righteous, but genuinely regrets her past misdeeds and wishes to be a force of good for good in the universe.

Moondragon became a mentor for Wildcat, a benefactor to Jack of Hearts and a would be lover of Quasar (who did not share her feelings), though her machinations have estranged all of them to some extent. FOR A TIME, Heather wielded the cosmic Mind Gem as a member of Adam Warlock's Infinity Watch; the Watch soon BROKE UP, RELQUISHING their Infinity Gems to Adam Warlock. A friend and admirer of the late Captain Marvel (Mar-vell), MoonDragon acted as an ally and advisor to his son, Genis, the new Captain Marvel. This led to a brief romance with Marlo, wife of Genis' partner, Rick Jones; but the Joneses soon reconciled, and Moondragon resumed her travels alongside a new love interest Phyla, Genis' sister.

Moon Dragon does not possess TK. She has " telepathy, mind control, personality altercation, memory modification, illusion casting, levitation and force blasts. Which means I won the previous thread "Past Avengers vs. Past JLA"

This is the end all bio of Moondragon. Stop overrating her.

YOU need to read up.

I don't trust you. You have the book. Show me a scan that says moondragon's a 3.

Can we stop with the bad words? "Lying" is so harsh. Try "story-telling."

I don't have a scanner. Don't be self-righteous. The only one who "story-telled" about Moondragon is you.

And for God's sake do you really think I wrote the entry above by myself? I copied it from the book.

lol. I had no i-deer that she lost so much power. I'm such a storyteller. At any rate, when she was MOONDRAGON, not Heather, or whatever the f her name is, she would kill superman. The Dragon of the Moon gave her the vast majority of her power. She's like GL without his ring.

Finally.

Without the Dragon, she isn't Moondragon.

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
lol. I had no i-deer that she lost so much power. I'm such a storyteller. At any rate, when she was MOONDRAGON, not Heather, or whatever the f her name is, she would kill superman. The Dragon of the Moon gave her the vast majority of her power. She's like GL without his ring.

Heather is her real name. With the Dragon of the Moon then yes she could beat Superman. At her normal levels, no.

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
Without the Dragon, she isn't Moondragon.

Dragon of the Moon....Moondragon.

Yeah, I guess she isn't.