Originally posted by kremzike
After showing a friend the new ending on my widescreen ROTJ DVD, I then pulled out my fullscreen VHS tape to remind him how it used to look. That was a painful excercise. Seeing the low quality image AND how terribly zoomed in it looked was awful. Gotta be widescreen.
ROFL!!! TOTALLY!!
The best and the worst:
Here it's totally obvious how much you miss and how annoying 4:3 is
http://www.starwars.com/episode-ii/release/video/f20020925/img/66535_bg.jpg
http://www.starwars.com/episode-ii/release/video/f20020925/img/66647_bg.jpg
But in 4:3's defence; here you only see the characters you wanna see 😉
http://www.starwars.com/episode-ii/release/video/f20020925/img/65928_bg.jpg
Widescreen, for every reason said previously. Hm, funny how those who voted fullscreen didn't post...
I don't need a big TV to watch widescreen, personally I don't understand this invisible requirement that 'I need a huge TV to watch widescreen'... all I care about is not having the movie cropped to hell and back.
Originally posted by Obi-OneManShow
But in 4:3's defence; here you only see the characters you wanna see 😉
http://www.starwars.com/episode-ii/release/video/f20020925/img/65928_bg.jpg
😆
Originally posted by Obi-OneManShow
The best and the worst:Here it's totally obvious how much you miss and how annoying 4:3 is
http://www.starwars.com/episode-ii/release/video/f20020925/img/66535_bg.jpg
http://www.starwars.com/episode-ii/release/video/f20020925/img/66647_bg.jpgBut in 4:3's defence; here you only see the characters you wanna see 😉
http://www.starwars.com/episode-ii/release/video/f20020925/img/65928_bg.jpg
LOL!!!
Is Star Wars the BENCHMARK on "Widescreen"??!!?? I have not yet compared frame by frame Star Wars Widescreen vs. Fullscreen, but will bet that George Lucas made sure that his films were TRULY widescreen. Back in 1999, Starwars was used in comparison with Widescreen and Fullscreen at a DVD store when I complained to the salesperson of how I had witnessed side by side comparisons of a movie in fullscreen and widescreen and that the WIDESCREEN HAD INDEED CROPPED AND CHOPPED FROM THE ORIGINAL FULLSCREEN INSTEAD OF REMASTERING FROM THE ORIGINAL FILM STRIPS!!! BUNCH OF CHEATS IN THE FILM INDUSTRY HAS BEEN PULLING THE WOOL OVER PEOPLES EYES!!!! JUST BECAUSE IT SAYS WIDESCREEN ON YOUR DVD, THERE IS NO GARAUNTEE THAT IT IS THE ORIGINAL FILM AS SEEN IN MOVIE THEATERS!!!
When Babylon 5 became widescreen on the SciFi channel, I became dissapointed when I compared TNT's Fullscreen versions side by side with Sci Fi's Widescreen version. EVERY SINGLE COMPUTER ANIMATION OF THE SPACESHIP SCENES HAD BEEN CROPPED AND CHOPPED FROM THE ORIGINAL FULLSCREEN. And to top it all off, several of the early episodes in either season 1 or 2 had been cropped and chopped with many of the actors and actressess heads chopped off near the hairline, unlike TNT's Fullscreen versions. Disgusted, I was going to edit all 110+ episodes and combine both TNT's Fullscreen ANIMATION with Sci Fi's Widescreen ACTING FOOTAGE, so that EVERY SINGLE FRAME would retain ALL OF THE POSSIBLE PICTURE. After I finished the first episode of season one, I decided it was TOO TIME CONSUMING, as I had spent well over 20 hours editing just one episode, and then all the time it took for my Pentium II 333MHZ computer to proccess the video back in 2001.
I just took two pictures of my computer screen of the movie "The Order" (with Heath Ledger not the one with Van Dam) from the fourth chapter in which I paused within the first second. Since this DVD is double sided with FULLSCREEN on one side and ANAMORPHIC WIDESCREEN on the other, I decided to over exemplify the problem:
All Star Wars films are originally widescreen 2.35:1. There is nothing cut out of the widescreen versions of Star Wars - it's the fullscreen versions that are cropped. I guarantee you.
As for the above film, my only explanation would be that two versions of the film were released - widescreen and fullscreen. The aspect ratio on IMDb is listed as 1.85:1, so the widescreen version is how it was meant to be seen. I could be wrong, but I think most films are actually shot 4:3, but cropped to widescreen later. Here, the filmmaker/studio probably thought it best for this fullscreen shot to extend the shot vertically (showing more of the characterrather than cutting the sides.
That happens often. Some films are shot on Super35 stock with a 1.33:1 (full-screen) aspect ratio while keeping in mind that the film will be matted when projected. They're matted (bars are added) for theatrical distribution and for home video release you either get one or the other, or both, depending on the director's (studio's, in most cases) preference. This goes for many films that eventually live up the majority of their lives on television/cable.
Originally posted by DeVi| D0do
All Star Wars films are originally widescreen 2.35:1. There is nothing cut out of the widescreen versions of Star Wars - it's the fullscreen versions that are cropped. I guarantee you.
That is why I stated that I would bet that Lucas made sure that his films were indeed truly widescreen.
Originally posted by DeVi| D0do
As for the above film, my only explanation would be that two versions of the film were released - widescreen and fullscreen. The aspect ratio on IMDb is listed as 1.85:1, so the widescreen version is how it was meant to be seen. I could be wrong, but I think most films are actually shot 4:3, but cropped to widescreen later.
IF THE FILM IS ORIGINALLY SHOT IN 4:3 ASPECT RATIO, THEN THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME SORT OF STANDARD THAT WOULD INDICATE AS SUCH, I.E. "4:3 WIDESCREEN" OR "CROPPED WIDESCREEN".
Originally posted by DeVi| D0do
Here, the filmmaker/studio probably thought it best for this fullscreen shot to extend the shot vertically (showing more of the characterrather than cutting the sides.
If this were true, then this movie ("The Order"😉 would exhibit segments of film in which vertical extensions were made here and there and NOT throughout the whole film. At the beginning of the FULLSCREEN version, the movie CLEARLY states that this FULLSCREEN version with this quote: "The following film has been modified from its original version. It has been formatted to fit this screen." THIS MEANS THAT THIS FILM WAS NOT SHOT IN 4:3!!!
I can't remember the movie right now, but I have seen a movie in the theater and then again on widescreen only to find out that it is not the original "full picture" film as featured in the theater, even though the aspect ratio was the same. I checked the fullscreen and sure enough, the widescreen had just chopped and cropped from the fullscreen. Since I can't remember this forgetable film, it seems that LOW BUDGET films tend to take short cuts in the film industry.
This is why there needs to be better guidelines to truly preserve original film stock on digital and a more detailed label that defines what type of widescreen is on each and every DVD disk so that one can choose which to buy, fullscreen or widescreen. As is, I would have to buy both in order to make sure the wool hadn't been pulled over my eyes.
Sincerely,
Vholïk Krokït
