Superman , Orion , MM vs Thanos

Started by Warlord8 pages
Originally posted by iceman24567
Ok show me one time i made the claim anybody would affect him via tp?

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That's confusing....
Since you agree that no one would affect him with TP and since we can't ignore the fact that these guys have been before (even if supes has strong resistance Orion hasn't - maxima has done it before) then don't we kinda agree that he could use it against them?

not a definite win move but a possible one

Originally posted by quanchi112
You are responding to me. I want this to be about the topic. I named someone who is a great telepath that Thanos pwned in battle. Name someone who MM has beaten who is a proven telepath.

How do they ground and pound with his shields up?

Yeah im responding to you whats your point? How many times do i have to tell you i don't have to or want to why don't you understand that? I don't want to even go there with your shields argument you act as if Thanos has never been physically hit shields or no shields.

Originally posted by Warlord
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That's confusing....
Since you agree that no one would affect him with TP and since we can't ignore the fact that these guys have been before (even if supes has strong resistance Orion hasn't - maxima has done it before) then don't we kinda agree that he could use it against them?

not a definite win move but a possible one

Orion does have natural resistance to tp plus MM is there to provide extra protection unless he dies quickly or first.

Originally posted by iceman24567
Orion does have natural resistance to tp plus MM is there to provide extra protection unless he dies quickly or first.

I know but then again if Maxima can do it effortlessly, Thanos could do it also....
There can be different scenarios...
Oh well never mind this would go forever, let's agree to disagree.

Originally posted by Warlord
I know but then again if Maxima can do it effortlessly, Thanos could do it also....
In what? 1992?

Originally posted by Juntai
For those times that someone says a character is going to mindrape Superman... Here's a few examples..

1) Brainiac 13: B 13 threw the fear of Earth's entire population into Superman's head -- Superman broke free of the attack within a panel or so. (Superman: Endgame TPB)

2) Despero: Despero had taken control of most of the JLA. He overtook bother Aquaman and J'onn Jonzz at the same time, but could not take Superman at all. (Pre-IC JLA issue)

3) Union: Union was the sum of billions of beings' mental strengths. He attacked Superman and Superman shrugged off his attack within a few panels and then beat down Union. (Superman in exile arc)

4) Neron: While in Hell, Neron attacked Superman's mind; Superman overcame it within a few panels. (Tie in to the Day of Judgment arc)

5) J'onn J'onzz: Superman throws J'onn J'onzz out of Superman's head. (Superman: King of the World). Mere contact with Superman's mind sends J'onn for a loop. (Superman: Where is Thy Sting) J'onn Jonzz states that his telepathy can not detect Superman if Superman does not wish to be detected.

6) Manchester Black: Black, a telepath so strong that not even J'onn could overcome the protection Black placed around Lex Luthor, had Superman believe that Lois was dead and that Superman had killed Black. Superman saw through the ruse and overcame Black's telepathic illusions. (Ending Battle)

7) The Fatal Five: Superman is attacked by the telepath of the Fatal Five. He resists her attack, pushing it back on her and taking her out.

8) Eclipso: Superman allows Eclipso into his head and then forces Eclipso out, just to see if he is strong enough mentally to do so. He then explains that, over the years, he has built up "a resistance to telepathy."

Originally posted by Juntai
In what? 1992?

what?
it doesn't count?

Originally posted by Warlord
what?
it doesn't count?
Actually probably would have been before 92..

In the sense that it happened, I suppose. But it's not really applicable to his current character. He's much stronger now, in every sense of the word.

I just gave you almost a dozen examples, all of them more recent.

And most all of them more powerful than Maxima.

Sorry but weren't these examples about Superman?
I mentioned Maxima on Orion's case

Originally posted by iceman24567
Yeah im responding to you whats your point? How many times do i have to tell you i don't have to or want to why don't you understand that? I don't want to even go there with your shields argument you act as if Thanos has never been physically hit shields or no shields.
Even without his shields Thor with the power gem really couldn't even phase him. These guys lack the power with or without the shields. 🙂

Originally posted by quanchi112
Even without his shields Thor with the power gem really couldn't even phase him. These guys lack the power with or without the shields. 🙂
Thor would have eventually won and so would these guys 🙂

Originally posted by iceman24567
Dumb statement MM has way better telepathy feats than Thanos.

Originally posted by iceman24567
No you implied that MM's telepathy was under Thanos level telepathy i called bulllshit on it if you have a problem with it you sholdn't have made that implication. Yes you were comparing Grodd to MM using Thanos as a template or i am just imagining things again 😱

Thanos has beaten Moondragon amped by the Mind Gem effortlessly, nearly gotten the better of Galactus in their astral plane duel, and his telepathy is powerful enough to alter reality (similar to T-Vo, but if Avlon is reliable, beneath it in scope.) MM does not have superior telepathy where Thanos is concerned.
Originally posted by iceman24567
Ok show me one time i made the claim anybody would affect him via tp?

If you're aware that Manhunter's TP is going to be a non-factor, then why bring it up?

However, if you've noticed my arguments, I've not mentioned anything about Thanos mindraping any members of the team because I am aware J'onn's a powerful psychic in his own right, and I don't believe Thanos would be able to affect him [at least not while fighting two other Superman-level opponents.] So, just 'cause I'm defending Thanos' psychic power here, don't mistake me for implying something I'm not.

(Just want to clear this up.)

Originally posted by iceman24567
Thor would have eventually won and so would these guys 🙂

If you look at the fight, Thanos not only hits him more times than Thor strikes Thanos, but he also puts him on the ground or sends him flying more than Thor does to Thanos. Thanos was winning that fight. Would he have lost eventually? Definitely.

I just want to point out that he held the advantage before 'tiring' of his opponent.

Originally posted by Enyalus
Thanos has beaten Moondragon amped by the Mind Gem effortlessly, nearly gotten the better of Galactus in their astral plane duel, and his telepathy is powerful enough to alter reality (similar to T-Vo, but if Avlon is reliable, beneath it in scope.) MM does not have superior telepathy where Thanos is concerned.

If you're aware that Manhunter's TP is going to be a non-factor, then why bring it up?

However, if you've noticed my arguments, I've not mentioned anything about Thanos mindraping any members of the team because I am aware J'onn's a powerful psychic in his own right, and I don't believe Thanos would be able to affect him [at least not while fighting two other Superman-level opponents.] So, just 'cause I'm defending Thanos' psychic power here, don't mistake me for implying something I'm not.

(Just want to clear this up.)

If you look at the fight, Thanos not only hits him more times than Thor strikes Thanos, but he also puts him on the ground or sends him flying more than Thor does to Thanos. Thanos was winning that fight. Would he have lost eventually? Definitely.

I just want to point out that he held the advantage before 'tiring' of his opponent.

The MoonDragon feat 👆 i give him kudos but seriously he was like an insect to Galactus once he realized that Thanos was scum 😆

Originally posted by iceman24567
but seriously he was like an insect to Galactus once he realized that Thanos was scum 😆

lol, it wasn't that bad. Thanos was doing damn well...until Galactus realized what he was up to. Says a lot about subtlety.

Superman alone is a match for Thanos. Furthermore, if prep is involve wouldn't that mean that Orion has access to his mother box, superman can sundip and have access to both jla and kryptonian tech (phantom zone). John isn't even needed, as ussual. 😎

Originally posted by Aztec123
Superman alone is a match for Thanos.
About as much as SS is.

Originally posted by Mindset
About as much as SS is.

Surfer is no Superman. 😉

Originally posted by Aztec123
Surfer is no Superman. 😉

Yeah, Surfer's better. 😉

Someone has to bring this up. If thanos can take blasts from an angry Odin and Surfer simultaneously and stand then how Orion and Superman can do better?

Originally posted by Warlord
Someone has to bring this up. If thanos can take blasts from an angry Odin and Surfer simultaneously and stand then how Orion and Superman can do better?
He didn't take a blast from SS and Odin at the same time, that was Odin who took a blast from Thanos and SS.