Originally posted by D_Dude1210
Are we back to this again??? Didn't the argument about this stalemate after like 50 pages of pointless debate??BTW, BRB blew up a planet in his battle with Stardust (tho I wouldn't call it a one-shot, it WAS more of an after-effect than a hit). BRB = Thor.
Admittedly, Supes has had very impressive lifting/pulling feats but please show scans that would be far more impressive than Thor/BRB's hitting/damage feats. Cuz, you know, in a fight, they don't exactly lift/pull things to prove who wins.
Originally posted by EnyalusThat was a very microscopic small moon, asteroid, or planetoid, nowhere near a planet in size.Wait a moment, you call me a liar - implying he hasn't done so...then ask for a scan of him doing so? If you're certain enough to call me a liar, why so uncertain as to ask for a scan proving your own stupidity incorrect? I don't take kindly to being called a liar, especially from an incorrigible fanboy such as yourself. That being said, I'll give you issue numbers instead. You can either look them up or take my word for it - either way, you'll know I'm not lying:
WM Thor one-shots a planet in Thor 468. Well before this at his base, classic levels, he strikes Exitar the Celestial hard enough to 'rock the entire planet' and shatter mountains for miles around. That was in Thor 388. And in Thor 423 its stated that he can one-shot planets. [/B]
Oneshot implies to knock out. But you get my point about A oneshotting B right?
Spiderman has also one-shot PC Superman. How's them apples?
Feats prove who is stronger on KMC and Superman has feats that puts his strength far above Thor's.
So you say, without one shred of proof. That's not allowed on KMC, by the way.
Incorrect. You are getting the instances screwed up. This was pulling the Earth against the Sun's gravity. And false pulling a planet out of Orbit requires the same force or less as putting it back in orbit. To put something in orbit is to give it an escape velocity which is the same velocity or less you must give it to take it out of orbit.. And pulling=pushing. When you punch you are pulling your arms forward (like a bowflex machine).
I assume you mean him pulling Earth with Hal Jordan's aid. And if so: One, the Earth was already out of orbit - he was pulling it back into its orbit, which takes much less strength than it does to tear it from its orbit. Two: He's in space, pulling against it. He's not even pushing. In fact, he's not even using his arms at all. How in your mind this affects Superman's punching power makes zero sense to any logical person.
Both the OHOTMU and the dictionary thinks it is true about the Serpent, so it is not only me. And why do you speak of this mumble jumble vague "multiversal level sentient object" without giving issue numbers or scans. Spider-man or even Colossus could have been turned this wheel.Again with this shit. Because in their canon crossover Superman soooo looked a billion times stronger than Thor, didn't he? 🙄
But since you insist on being dense and spouting the same bullshit calculations: Thor's lifted the Midgard Serpent, large enough to wrap itself around the Earth. No matter how much you say "most of it was intangible when Thor did it" won't make it true. And that was an actual lifting feat, involving arm strength. In Thor 400, Hercules and Thor's arm wrestling match generated enough pressure to knock the planet out of orbit. How's that for strength? And if you're thinking about using the Megaddon Wheel feat for Supes, know that Thor has turned the wheels of a multiversal level sentient object in Yggdrasil the World Tree, which exists on all planes of reality at once. The World Tree is sentient and he was pushing against the wheel and the engine's will, while he was dying.
Classic Thor and Superman are comparable in strength. WM Thor w/ Power Gem absolutely shits on Superman's strength.
You are a completely bias marvel fanboy for that comment. Superman not being strong enough to affect Thanos with his punches is asinine. That comment is so bad that even Quanchi would disagree with you. At least Quanchi is making decent arguments with Thanos shields and not totally ridiculous ones as you just did. It makes more sense that Colossus won't affect Spider-man with his landed punches than what you said. Energy blasts are not physical strikes. Thanos can absorb and harness energy through his being. And Superman still strikes Thanos before Thanos acts.Superman's blows will not jar Thanos. He is not strong enough. If he can walk through Odin's blasts and not even take a step back while being struck by a Mjolnir which can shatter planets, Superman's blows will not jar him. He slaps him away like Darkseid does, puts up his shields, and goes from there. Or lets loose an omnidirectional blast to stun or put him down for a moment.
Superman has traveled light speed in an atmosphere or close enough where it can't be distinguished between the two. He appeared halfway around the Earth instantly several times. In the IG saga, Surfer slowed down at the end of the flight. Thanos didn't react, Surfer merely missed.Superman doesn't go light speed in the atmosphere. And Thanos has reacted to Surfer's blitz when he traveled a full light year in roughly a second's time. Again - not an issue.
You know this how? You haven't read the issue in question. This is the page before he stops the blitz:
How far away does that look to you? 20 ft? 50? And Fallen One has trans-light speed, just like Surfer.
This fight starts half a kilometer apart, per FMC rules. Much further away than Thanos was against Fallen One.
Wrong! You are either playing the scan con game or didn't read the arc yourself. Fallen One was light years away from Thanos when he stop him from blitzing. And .5km away is like being skin close to Superman. This is no distance at all to him. Light years away is a different story. Nice try though.
Originally posted by h1a8
BRB doesn't equal Thor.
Yes, Thor is more powerful in his current incarnation. Classic Thor is equal to BRB.
Originally posted by h1a8
It takes far less force than the weight of a planet to oneshot it.
I disagree. It all depends on how the force is applied. A 10 megaton nuke being detonated on the surface of a 10 mile asteroid on an impact trajectory with Earth will only scar the surface. But attach a small rocket to the surface of the asteroid, applying only constant but minute force will move it away from it's current trajectory.
I'm sure you derived this conclusion from your extensive knowledge of physics (LOL!). :-/
Originally posted by h1a8
Superman is proven to generate forces greater than the weight of 50 Earths.
Wow. Where do you come up with these numbers?? -_-
FYI, we're talking about Thanos' durability here. By your own admission, Thor can make Mjolnir hit as hard as he wants. Well, he wasn't JUST PUNCHING Thanos, he was hitting him with the hammer, too. This proves Thanos' durability to be far more than you seem to believe it is.
Also, his shields can absorb anything these guys throw at him.
Originally posted by h1a8Only thing I read of your post...
Wrong! You are either playing the scan con game or didn't read the arc yourself. Fallen One was light years away from Thanos when he stop him from blitzing. And .5km away is like being skin close to Superman. This is no distance at all to him. Light years away is a different story. Nice try though.
wut
Fallen One just destroyed Thanos' ship, and stuck around afterwards. There is no way he is light years away (never stated, implied, shown, etc). And in the scan you just saw, he was only about 30 feet away. Seriously, how did you even come up with this conclusion?
Fallen One went straight at him in a straight line. The fastest way to something is in a straight line. Thanos reacted.
Originally posted by Mekrob
Only thing I read of your post...wut
Fallen One just destroyed Thanos' ship, and stuck around afterwards. There is no way he is light years away (never stated, implied, shown, etc). And in the scan you just saw, he was only about 30 feet away. Seriously, how did you even come up with this conclusion?
Fallen One went straight at him in a straight line. The fastest way to something is in a straight line. Thanos reacted.
Yeah, I'm not bothering with this anymore. At least 13 of his...16 points in that last post were either wrong, totally baseless, or both.
Originally posted by Enyalus
Yeah, I'm not bothering with this anymore. At least 13 of his...16 points in that last post were either wrong, totally baseless, or both.
OF course! That's h1a18 ur talking about. The fun part is actually finding the parts of his argument that DOES make sense. It's not easy, but he throws em in there once in a while!
Originally posted by EnyalusWait a moment, you call me a liar - implying he hasn't done so...then ask for a scan of him doing so? If you're certain enough to call me a liar, why so uncertain as to ask for a scan proving your own stupidity incorrect? I don't take kindly to being called a liar, especially from an incorrigible fanboy such as yourself. That being said, I'll give you issue numbers instead. You can either look them up or take my word for it - either way, you'll know I'm not lying:
WM Thor one-shots a planet in Thor 468. Well before this at his base, classic levels, he strikes Exitar the Celestial hard enough to 'rock the entire planet' and shatter mountains for miles around. That was in Thor 388. And in Thor 423 its stated that he can one-shot planets.
Spiderman has also one-shot PC Superman. How's them apples?
So you say, without one shred of proof. That's not allowed on KMC, by the way.
I assume you mean him pulling Earth with Hal Jordan's aid. And if so: One, the Earth was already out of orbit - he was pulling it back into its orbit, which takes much less strength than it does to tear it from its orbit. Two: He's in space, pulling against it. He's not even pushing. In fact, he's not even using his arms at all. How in your mind this affects Superman's punching power makes zero sense to any logical person.
Again with this shit. Because in their canon crossover Superman soooo looked a billion times stronger than Thor, didn't he? 🙄
But since you insist on being dense and spouting the same bullshit calculations: Thor's lifted the Midgard Serpent, large enough to wrap itself around the Earth. No matter how much you say "most of it was intangible when Thor did it" won't make it true. And that was an actual lifting feat, involving arm strength. In Thor 400, Hercules and Thor's arm wrestling match generated enough pressure to knock the planet out of orbit. How's that for strength? And if you're thinking about using the Megaddon Wheel feat for Supes, know that Thor has turned the wheels of a multiversal level sentient object in Yggdrasil the World Tree, which exists on all planes of reality at once. The World Tree is sentient and he was pushing against the wheel and the engine's will, while he was dying.
Classic Thor and Superman are comparable in strength. WM Thor w/ Power Gem absolutely shits on Superman's strength.
Superman's blows will not jar Thanos. He is not strong enough. If he can walk through Odin's blasts and not even take a step back while being struck by a Mjolnir which can shatter planets, Superman's blows will not jar him. He slaps him away like Darkseid does, puts up his shields, and goes from there. Or lets loose an omnidirectional blast to stun or put him down for a moment.
Superman doesn't go light speed in the atmosphere. And Thanos has reacted to Surfer's blitz when he traveled a full light year in roughly a second's time. Again - not an issue.
You know this how? You haven't read the issue in question. This is the page before he stops the blitz:
How far away does that look to you? 20 ft? 50? And Fallen One has trans-light speed, just like Surfer.
Wrong. This fight starts half a kilometer apart, per FMC rules. Much further away than Thanos was against Fallen One.
Read what was typed out to you here. Think about it rationally. And come up with a response worth my time and not filled with fanboy nonsense. If the Team wins, it's going to be due to prep. Not because Superman solos him. [/B]
I did get a woody I must admit
Originally posted by quanchi112If i am the troll why have i been warned all of 2 times ever? If im the troll why have i never been banned? No sir you are the troll i have scans to back up my claims so not only are you a troll but your a liar continue until your banned again i don't care just because i don't want to give examples your crying please report me if thats trolling 😱 . The team for the majority by the way.
No, it's you who trolls. You constantly whine about having to give evidence when you have none. I just gave you an example while you can't even name one. I knew it.
